Friday, May 21, 2010

What is the most effective Offensive martial art?

I know the primary aim for martial arts is for defensive purposes, but i am looking for an Art where i can use if for offensive purposes. I was also wondering which of these arts is the easiest to learn for me, as i%26#039;m 6ft and 19 stone. I%26#039;m on the fat side then :-(





I think i may well prefer to use my arms more so then legs and was thinking about boxing? I intend to use anything i learn in a street form so would prefer it to be effective. I have heard jujitsu and muay thai are rather violent offensive arts?





N.b Please don%26#039;t judge me and moan about how it should be deffensive purposes only and tell me i need to lose weight.|||Hello,





I%26#039;ll make this short and simple like the Art of Kenpo Karate. I have studied Martial Arts for more then 35 years now and for the past ten years I have been learning and teaching Kenpo. Kenpo is a very devastating self defense system. Just check out some demos on youtube.com or do an engine search for in depth information.


Enjoy and good luck with your training.





(77)|||Offensive m.a.: muay thai: based on the tattoo%26#039;s that many have on their backs with (demons and ghostfaces) i see in muay thai matches. an aggression based style.


some street fighting m.a. styles.


and kajukenpo- reputation for it%26#039;s brutal and %26quot;raw%26quot; training.?|||it%26#039;s only the artist and the tenets of ma why it%26#039;s used for self defence.there all offensive.if you want to fight and attack ppl maybe you should just by a gun and leave the ma for the men.


the only time ma should be used for offence is if the situation requires it or your getting paid for it.lol. the tattoos you speak of big spender are not ma tats.go to my blog and you will see what a muay thai and karate irezumi is.(if it%26#039;s still there.)the tradional muay thai tat is the symbol of the thai yakusa,you wont see to many of them in the ring.|||Just because you%26#039;re a certain height or weight doesn%26#039;t mean learning Martial Arts is going to be any more easier or more difficult to learn. Martial Arts don%26#039;t have certain disciplines for people with particular body characteristics (height, weight, gender, body type)





And a Martial Art is only as effective as the person who utilizes it.





Also Martial Art can be used offensively just as easily as it can be used defensively, there%26#039;s nothing that says you can%26#039;t attack an opponent first before they attack you if you%26#039;ve anticipated their attack.





But if you want to study boxing then you don%26#039;t need to learn any Martial arts because it sounds like you%26#039;ve already made the decision.





You could study kickboxing where you can use your hands as much as your legs, but if you%26#039;re more set on just boxing, then go ahead.





Muay Thai and Jujitsu aren%26#039;t any more or less offensive as they are defensive, because it varies from situation to situation about what what technique(s) you%26#039;ll use





if a fight happens it%26#039;s not gonna wait for anyone to say %26quot;let%26#039;s flip a coin to see who gets first licks in%26quot; so waiting until your opponent to strike before you do is not necessary,plus the sooner you can end the fight; the lesser your chances of injury will increase due to fatigue.





and there%26#039;s never a such thing as a fair fight so anything goes, but it looks better in your favor if the other person took the initiative in the fight to swing first if the police wind up getting involved later.





otherwise you could wind up in the back seat of a squad car right along with the other guy|||Taking into consideration your height and weight then firstly,





Boxing would be a good start,you expressed an interest in jiu-jitsu but the hardest part of learning jiu-jitsu is coping with breakfalling if you can get past that then great go for it.





Good luck and best wishes....Dave|||Ninjitsu as in Ninja and krav maga








www.kravmaga.co.uk are good (as in MOSAD isreali specail forces)|||since the martial art i practice is based on Wing Chun,i would recommend that . having been in the martial arts for 44 years plus i think Systema would work or Krav Maga.your choice ,good luck|||I practise Karate but avoid kicking in sparring events as I not very good with it just yet, might avoid it all together in a real situation. There are so many different types of martial arts due to there being so many different types of people with differing abilities. Go to a class find out, above all enjoy it|||You%26#039;re probably best off sticking to boxing of some sort: Western boxing, Muay Thai, hell, even French boxing has its aggressive uses if you can *find* any instruction...





Just keep in mind that if you want to be in shape for the ring, you will have to lose weight. As in, you%26#039;ll have to exercise and such just in training. That is a part of the deal. It just comes with the territory. Western Boxers skip a *lot* of rope and do some road work (running). Thai Boxers and other kickboxers do much the same.





In terms of more close-up fighting, you may wish to look into Judo. It doesn%26#039;t look aggressive in still pics and such, but see some in motion, and you%26#039;ll get it that aggression is a part of the training.





And....in all fairness, I have to bring this up. You did say %26quot;effective%26quot;. Well, weapons are pretty effective, provided they are legal for you to have and you have the will to use them. The old saying is true, your fists *will not* beat a bullet. And even just a pocket-knife or a folder, where it is legal, will make you much more difficult for attackers to deal with.





Still, I would say you are on the right track mostly. Only catch is, you have to *train* whatever it is you do, as it really is all about the quality of *resistance* in your training.





Take care and good luck to you, let me know how it turns out. ^_^|||Shadow boxing.


Or in your case jabba boxing.|||The 12 bore.|||to many to say but have a look at combat hapkido and don%26#039;t worry about your weight when you start any martial art you will improve your fitness and lose the pounds www.combathapkidoireland.com|||The 44 semi-automatic. I can take out 12 %26quot;masters%26quot; in 6 seconds!|||You cannot beat Wing Chun or Chin-na. Both are Chineese Kung Fu arts that are extremely effective and devastating when used offensively.





Find yourself a real Chineese teacher. A lot of so called teachers claim to teach Kung Fu, but are nothing more than Tae Kwon Do or Karate crap. It%26#039;s amazing how many of these scammers are out there. Careful, a real Kung Fu teacher DOES NOT go by the name sensei or call his school a dojo. Those are Japanese terms, and more than likely they are teaching karate in disguise.|||Olympic style Taekwondo, I took six years and got my black belt in it (a three day test), and believe me, its awesome. Make sure you get a hard course, not a buy-ur-belt course. You%26#039;re only cheating yourself out of one of the best accomplishments of your life by choosing a easier school.|||hey - not judging you or moaning -- but you say you want to learn to be %26quot;offensive%26quot; in street fights - so I am assuming you want to start them rather than finish them





so here%26#039;s my advice - first learn how to take a shot - and I am not talking some stylised martial arts shot - I am talking a headbutt, a broken bottle to the face or a steel capped boot to the nuts - when you can carry on fighting through those you might have a chance of not losing your teeth and kidneys - seriously if you go looking for fights you will find people willing to fight you who are a whole lot meaner, tougher and better than you - so sooner or latter your a## will be badly whipped - if you are unlucky you will be stabbed or shot. So be prepared ! A friend of mine always wears a cup and carries a mouthguard.





Second are you fast or slow? If you are slow a little guy will hit your nuts so many times before you can react you will wish you were a girl ! If you are slow grappling skills with your weight will help you in a fight. Get in close quick neutralise your opponents hitting range, take him down and proceed to choke him out.





A street fight is usually won by the guy that gets his shot in first and then follows up hard. I have done various forms of fight training since I could walk and compete at national level - but in street fights I have found that to win the best techniques are the fastest and dirtiest - if i was figthing you - i would flick gouge your eyes - kick your balls or inner knee or stomp your shin, head butt your eyebrow area and if up close grappling bite your lip or cheek skin off





then I would proceed to puch, knee, kick your kidneys, balls, thighs, spine as hard and fast and often as I could





if need be I would choke you out and then I would kick the sh#t out of you - i would want you to go away badly marked and remembering your a## was kicked.








my friend those are he realities of street fighting - you need to train for those types of eventualities - so you need to pick basic skills across a large number of disciplines - find someone who will train you full contact so you know what its like to be hurt and then hope you dont come up against a gun or knife carrier|||try anything that teaches you to keep going once you attack. real world fighting doesnt wait for the other person to recover, and it doesnt come in to attack then back off to prepare for the next attack.





you should be taught to keep the pressure on and over whelm your opponent until you win or lose. if you have the chance to strike, take it, and keep taking it.





fighting IS offense. the winning person at any time will be the one on the offensive, and the losing opponent on the defensive. you MUST maintain your winning streak by continuing the offensive.





also, if you know an attack is going to happen, whats wrong with attacking first? offense isnt just about being the bully, or starting the problem, but is the best way to reduce your pain by getting the fight over as quickly as possible.





if you think defense is the key you will lose.





violence isnt an evil of thugs, but a fact of fighting. if you cant handle using it when it counts you are limiting yourself. you dont have to be an @sshole to use violence to stop violence. and please, no more about the art of Aikido as a self defense tool.|||Karate is the simplist quickest martial art to learn but be careful about which kind you learn. I myself dont take karate but i know how they fight and I would say kyukushin karate, Ishinryu karate , or shotokan karate would be a good one for what your looking for.





I myself take muy thai, jujitsu, shaoling eagle claw kung fu, drunken kung fu, and monkey kung fu as well as a little bit of samurai sword fighting|||I%26#039;d have to go along with western style boxing.|||dude mma is here haven%26#039;t u heard of it MIXED MARTIAL ARTS





15 years ago the world established that the most effective art form are Brazilian jui jitsu(not Japanese) muay Thai kickboxing and wrestling (not pro wrestling)





muay Thai offer the most effective striking in all martial arts focusing on devastating knees elbows and thigh kick plus the added advantage of being able to control Ur opponent in the clinch





Brazilian jui jitsu tells us that u can take a kung fu master take him to the floor and easily choke him out or arm bar him without braking a sweat because all the fancy kicking and punching in the world ain%26#039;t gonna help u when someones sitting on top of u second away from applying a pain full joint dislocation





then there is wrestling, although very simple also very effective learn the single leg take down double leg take down suplex and greco roman throw from under hooks then all u ned to do is gain top position once UV taken Ur guy down with ease then punch his face to a pulp till hes out now known as %26#039;ground and pound%26#039;





add all these techniques then ur what is known as a mixed martial artist





i%26#039;l enlighten u check these sights out





www.pride.com





www.ufc.com





www.sherdog.com





www.subfighter.com





www.mmaweekly.com





just type the following words into www.youtube.com and ull get some footage NHB, MMA, BJJ, PRIDE, UFC, GRACIE, EMELIENENKO FEDOR





fave fun dude and dont let any one tell u that the following martial arts are worth taking up especially if u really wanna smash some faces in





bullshit martial arts= aikido, japanese jui jitsu, hapkido, kung fu, tkd worst of all = KRAV MAGA





quality martial arts proven in actual fighting tournements over the past 15 years= sambo, judo , brazilian jui jitsu, muay thai, free style wrestling, greco roman wrestling, kickboxing





have fun and good luck





5 yrs brazilian jui jistu





10 yrs kickboxing





15 yrs martial arts fan and knowledgable mma fan|||Shukokai karate...but the best..albeit %26#039;defensive%26#039; is Aikido.I would bet on an Aikido master beating a kung-fu,karate,tae-kuando or judo master any day...Seriously!!!|||I know you have asked people not to moan about martial arts being defensive. But the very fact that you are asking for information on how to violent and offensive are worrying in themselves. Have you anyone in particular in mind that you want to maim or will it just be mindless violence?|||i do jiu jitsu and most of the guys ther are pretty big and they seem to do the moves fine, one of the censeis is also a pretty big guy and he usually changes the move a little for him if his weight gets in the way. jiu jitsu is a great sport because even tho striking is good, once the fight gets taken to the ground jiu jitsu takes over. i wrestle and do jiu jitsu so i know some takedowns from wrestling and how to maneuver on the ground but i like jiu jitsu because even if im on my bak i can still finish the guy. i havent tried a striking sport yet but i would want to. maybe u can join one of those dojos where u can take different classes and see which one is best for u? also, if u watched any of the early ufc when it was more of art against art instead of fighter against fighter gracie was champion and that is becaue of jiu jitsu, the strikers couldnt stand up to him on the ground once he took them down. well, i hope this helped u out

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