Thanks so much.|||kickboxing is effective, yes. those kicks and elbow-and-knee-punches are very explosive and can very painfully disable an untrained fighter.
jujitsu focuses on grappling and submission, best if you%26#039;re rolling on the pavement. you can disable your opponent without even throwing a punch.
my preferences, though :
jeet kun do trains you to utilise and maximise any and all of your body parts (plus whatever %26quot;tool or weapon%26quot; you can get your hands on) in a fighting match. deadly, if i may say. i trained for 4 yrs..
combat aikido uses your oponent%26#039;s force against him. it%26#039;s kinda cool. (ever watched steven seagal? don%26#039;t mind his poor acting, watch how conserved his movements are, even in tight places) i trained for 9 months.
in my opinion, these two are best for street fights.
of course, jeet kun do includes a philosophical outlook in life. and you may end up wanting to avoid fights instead (rather than possibly killing your opponent). still, your skill is there with you should the need for it really arise.
nevertheless, any form of martial arts training will do you good in any fight.|||Kick boxing can be helpful but it%26#039;s only one piece to a very complex puzzle. On the streets anything can and will happen so you must train with that in mind. A good combination of different martial arts that prepare you for all ranges is the best answer. I personally think that a mix of Muay Thai for it%26#039;s strikes, Judo for it%26#039;s throws and ground work and Japanese Jujutsu for it%26#039;s self defense tactics would make a good mix.|||I think kickboxing strikes can be effective, but I%26#039;m not sure about the mentality...the sport/conditioning aspect can be useful, but you need a good solid self-defense mindset. You might need to get self-defense from another martial art.
I don%26#039;t know how effective kung fu would be in a street fight, but I%26#039;d highly recommend jujitsu in case you go down to the ground...that is good stuff.
To sum up, you%26#039;d probably be better off studying several different martial arts if you want to be a well-rounded martial artist.|||All can be effective in a fight. But, best course of action would be 1) to study all, even a little is better than going in not able to defend oneself and 2) stay out of trouble. If that%26#039;s not possible, majority of street fighters come out doing %26quot;bar yard swings%26quot;, and kicking. As long as you can see it coming you can defend yourself, even without boxing, kung fu, etc.
I personally have taken Kung Fu. I like how it teaches me both defense and offense. But when finished with this training I will take JuJitsu as I just like the style. And yes, although I%26#039;m a woman, I do take boxing which on the %26quot;real%26quot; streets is actually more effective than my Kung Fu training.
You really do have to feel out your opponent. And the angrier they are the larger the swing coming at you. Easy to duck down and avoid. Just stay calm and overcome your opponent however you can. Street fighting has no rules, so it%26#039;s whatever YOU are most comfortable with. When I was street fighting, I fought continually from 8 years of age to 16 years old. Why? My brother had a big mouth, therefore someone had to come to his defense right? lol. And no! At that time, I had NO training and have yet to get beaten up, I got slapped around, but still came out the victor because I took my time, waited for the perfect moment and pounced. And ALL my fights (except 3) were against teen boys, and my parents estimate I%26#039;ve been in well over 200 fist fights due to my brother.|||I studied Various schools of Kung Fu and other martial arts in my lifetime. One thing that matters more than anything you can learn in any %26quot;self defense%26quot; class is conditioning. If your goal is truly to learn how to fight and win I recommend Boxing. You need to learn how to take a hit and how to properly guard yourself...
Martial arts can help you learn interesting techniques, but these same techniques are almost useless against a good, solid boxer until you can somehow break through their defense.
Kicks are useful... but mostly only as a lead in to grappling or for lower body destruction. Whatever you%26#039;re studying. If you don%26#039;t leave class sore and tired you aren%26#039;t conditioning and it%26#039;s not making you a real fighter.|||I would say that kick boxing would be very effective in the street! Someone who is extreamly versed in Kung Fu might do ok... and Jujitsu would be awesome against only one apponent.
Now Boxing Vs Kick boxing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSiE9Ed8j...|||forget that wing chun.
as for boxing... sure, but why not train the legs for power too? rather than rely on just being a punch specialistic, get semi-skilled in punch and kick%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;Muay Thai is very effective. not the american kickboxing, but the Muay Thai.
Elbows are awesome at close range.
the whole focus of Muay Thai is to be vicious and unrelenting. the reason martial artists get whipped in street fights is because of the violence involved, it is different to the dojo. the unpredictability of it throws peoples confidence to the ground, followed by their body. the element of surprise does wonders. experince will teach you the tricks that work, but everyones different, and life is exciting once more.
Take up Muay Thai, and you will spar with determination, using all these body weapons: knees, shins, elbows, fists.
the bouncers in town where I am are all competitive Muay Thai practitioners, not boxers, not wing chunners, not aikido fools, but
muay thai kickboxers.
you need to know how to use the body parts like legs and knees, fist and elbows, and when you do you can enter a fight with some serious confidence and skill.
our bar manager is a MMA dude, and that combo of muay thai and BJJ is awesome. but he only grapples if its safe to, otherwise its kicks and punches.|||Don%26#039;t listen to any of these guys, if it%26#039;s one thing that MMA has taught us over the years, they most effective striking comes from the Kick boxing. Installs strength in power in your legs and punches, it%26#039;s just over all visious and it%26#039;s needed to make your self a good fighter. You don%26#039;t see people wining championships with kung fu do you? In fact all the skills you learn in Kung fu will all but disappear in a real fight, trust me I took Wing Chun for 3 years.|||The best defense is the art of keeping ones nose out of trouble, but the art of just good %26quot;Boxing%26quot; is a lot better than the ballet dance acts of the wannabe Bruce Lee%26#039;s out there. I have seen in the marines a few martial art specialists getting their heads clashed by a street fighter boxer style and the boxer was able to deflect and also take the jete style kicks that Mr wannabe Lee gave without even flinching when they did land on him. So, in my oppinion a good old style boxer with power in the upper body and arms will do just right when the fight is on, over any of the wannabe Bruce Lee%26#039;s.|||If you take Kickboxing on a competitive level with sparring and actuall matches you will be very hard to beat. The sparring and matches will prepare you for a street fight. The sparring will get your timing down. It will help you learn to take and avoid punches and kicks. If you happen to run into a black belt in jujitsu you may be in for a big problem if you don%26#039;t KO them right away. Otherwise Kickboxing is very effective.|||ANY kind of kicking and/or kneeing is a waste of energy in a street fight...and no matter how good you are at a certain style of fighting...you have to remember that ANYTHING goes on the street...so being good at kickboxing isn%26#039;t going to prevent a 2X4 from bashing your chest in(personal experience). Boxing and Wing-chun mixed (and if practiced enough) are the best bet for self defense on the street. I%26#039;ve boxed for 11 yrs and been in wing-chun for about 3. They%26#039;re VERY effective.
Hope this helped you...^.^ Be careful out there.
Monday, November 16, 2009
Is Miyama Ryu Jujitsu effective?
I read about this style created by Antonio Pereira in the South Bronx. It combines Judo, Aikido, and Jujitsu. With that said, does anybody know the effectiveness of this system?|||from what ive seen it looks effective as long as they spar hard and realistically any art is effective|||I knew Professor Pereira and most of my Jujutsu friends are from his school.
If the instructor is one of his original black belts, you will get some great training. Those guys trained hard core.
Ask the person what is his certificate number and how long he trained with Pereira Sensei.
Alot of the later generation people are not worth it.
People like Sensei Marquez, who to me was the best, Sensei Negron, who lived in and practically built the Hombu Dojo, Bombace Sensei, Pablo Martinez, these are all the guys I saw and they are all awesome practitioners.
I have the priviledge of knowing Miguel Ibarra, however, he is not associated with the house anymore. He is an awesome practitioner. He has his own organization.
It depends if you can find these people and where you are located. Alot of them have scattered throughout the country.
I heard great things about D%26#039;Arcy Rahming, but never seen him. I won%26#039;t doubt he is good.
It is a good system if you learn from one of the seniors. Extremely effective.
Professor Pereira trained many NYPD and Dept of Corrections Officers.
Lenny Homes is or was an instructor in Rikers Island Correctional Facility... one of the most dangerous places to work in. He was one of the Professors students.
If the instructor is one of his original black belts, you will get some great training. Those guys trained hard core.
Ask the person what is his certificate number and how long he trained with Pereira Sensei.
Alot of the later generation people are not worth it.
People like Sensei Marquez, who to me was the best, Sensei Negron, who lived in and practically built the Hombu Dojo, Bombace Sensei, Pablo Martinez, these are all the guys I saw and they are all awesome practitioners.
I have the priviledge of knowing Miguel Ibarra, however, he is not associated with the house anymore. He is an awesome practitioner. He has his own organization.
It depends if you can find these people and where you are located. Alot of them have scattered throughout the country.
I heard great things about D%26#039;Arcy Rahming, but never seen him. I won%26#039;t doubt he is good.
It is a good system if you learn from one of the seniors. Extremely effective.
Professor Pereira trained many NYPD and Dept of Corrections Officers.
Lenny Homes is or was an instructor in Rikers Island Correctional Facility... one of the most dangerous places to work in. He was one of the Professors students.
Who would win in a fight? Bruce Lee at his Prime, or a jujitsu master?
Zachary displayed a fine example of having no clue what Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (bjj) is...
BJJ is all about controlling the opponent on the ground... bjj has very limited and very weak takedowns... Royce Gracie excelled in controlling a grounded opponent over anything else he did or his opponents tried to do to him (including punches once it hit the ground)... Royce%26#039;s accomplishments are not limited to his career in the UFC either.. he has an extensive amount of wins with few losses in his own sport of BJJ.
Bruce Lee had very little background fighting on the ground and as a result wrote little about it, and taught little about it.
Who would win in this case? Who knows!?!?
As a side note.... Bruce Lee was one friggin intense dood!
i had never learned of Bruce being taught jujitsu informally by Wally Jay until recently.|||1. Bruce Lee was not a fighter. There is no verifiable fight record of his surviving, nor footage of him in an actual fight, so we can make no sound judgement of his fighting abilities. Hence, we also have no idea of when his %26#039;prime%26#039; was supposed to be.
2. By BJJ Master I assume you mean a black belt? Well, there%26#039;s black belts and then there%26#039;s black belts. In a full fight no one with any sense relies on just one style anymore. Marcelo Garcia would smoke Wanderlei Silva in a grappling match, Wanderlei would probably murder Marcelo in MMA; they%26#039;re both black belts. There are black belts from 21 - 80+, 120lbs to 300, and so on, there are guys who get the black belt but don%26#039;t go much further, and guys like Marcelo who go so far beyond %26#039;black belt%26#039; level it%26#039;s unreal. So really you have to pick someone for this comparison to be any use.
3. Conclusion: Your question is both illogical and pointless.
EDIT: LOL at people who think Royce Gracie is a BJJ %26#039;master%26#039;.|||Bruce Lee would CRUSH a Jiu Jitsu Master. Just because Royce Gracie was a UFC champ- does not mean he would be invincible. His career pretty much ended in 2003. Bruce Lee was not only a master of the takedown- but he also mastered how to keep his opponents down, too. By making powerful blows strategically, Bruce Lee concentrated each hit with his 145lb body, with a force equal to about 2000lbs/inch. That%26#039;s devastating!|||In the ring, it would be difficult because Bruce uses illegal moves... so most likely he wouldn%26#039;t even agree to fight in the ring with a jujitsu master.
On the streets, Bruce will use more of his environment, probably jump on something to do his crazy speedy kicks or rip-your-nuts-with-my-fist technique, lol. It all depends on the skill, but I have more of a bet on Bruce.|||Who knows. All I can say is that Bruce Lee studied the martial arts. All of them. This fact gives him a great edge over someone who just studies one art form. For those who say he never studied the ground game need to do better research before speaking. He studied all forms of fighting, jujitsu included. He is the %26quot;Father of MMA%26quot;.|||Didn%26#039;t Gene Lebelle manage to submit Lee? (Yeah, Judo isn%26#039;t BJJ, but it%26#039;s still grappling). So if Lebelle could do it, then a BJJ master would%26#039;ve probably been able to. (at least until Lee got the hang of BJJ)|||Bruce Lee I%26#039;d suggest.
Best wishes :)***|||Bruce Lee would NOT win every fight, there will always be some one out there better then the next person; Bruce Lee included.|||Depends who the Jujutsu (or Brazilian Jiu jitsu) master is.|||Chuck Norris|||Chuck Norris always wins.
BJJ is all about controlling the opponent on the ground... bjj has very limited and very weak takedowns... Royce Gracie excelled in controlling a grounded opponent over anything else he did or his opponents tried to do to him (including punches once it hit the ground)... Royce%26#039;s accomplishments are not limited to his career in the UFC either.. he has an extensive amount of wins with few losses in his own sport of BJJ.
Bruce Lee had very little background fighting on the ground and as a result wrote little about it, and taught little about it.
Who would win in this case? Who knows!?!?
As a side note.... Bruce Lee was one friggin intense dood!
i had never learned of Bruce being taught jujitsu informally by Wally Jay until recently.|||1. Bruce Lee was not a fighter. There is no verifiable fight record of his surviving, nor footage of him in an actual fight, so we can make no sound judgement of his fighting abilities. Hence, we also have no idea of when his %26#039;prime%26#039; was supposed to be.
2. By BJJ Master I assume you mean a black belt? Well, there%26#039;s black belts and then there%26#039;s black belts. In a full fight no one with any sense relies on just one style anymore. Marcelo Garcia would smoke Wanderlei Silva in a grappling match, Wanderlei would probably murder Marcelo in MMA; they%26#039;re both black belts. There are black belts from 21 - 80+, 120lbs to 300, and so on, there are guys who get the black belt but don%26#039;t go much further, and guys like Marcelo who go so far beyond %26#039;black belt%26#039; level it%26#039;s unreal. So really you have to pick someone for this comparison to be any use.
3. Conclusion: Your question is both illogical and pointless.
EDIT: LOL at people who think Royce Gracie is a BJJ %26#039;master%26#039;.|||Bruce Lee would CRUSH a Jiu Jitsu Master. Just because Royce Gracie was a UFC champ- does not mean he would be invincible. His career pretty much ended in 2003. Bruce Lee was not only a master of the takedown- but he also mastered how to keep his opponents down, too. By making powerful blows strategically, Bruce Lee concentrated each hit with his 145lb body, with a force equal to about 2000lbs/inch. That%26#039;s devastating!|||In the ring, it would be difficult because Bruce uses illegal moves... so most likely he wouldn%26#039;t even agree to fight in the ring with a jujitsu master.
On the streets, Bruce will use more of his environment, probably jump on something to do his crazy speedy kicks or rip-your-nuts-with-my-fist technique, lol. It all depends on the skill, but I have more of a bet on Bruce.|||Who knows. All I can say is that Bruce Lee studied the martial arts. All of them. This fact gives him a great edge over someone who just studies one art form. For those who say he never studied the ground game need to do better research before speaking. He studied all forms of fighting, jujitsu included. He is the %26quot;Father of MMA%26quot;.|||Didn%26#039;t Gene Lebelle manage to submit Lee? (Yeah, Judo isn%26#039;t BJJ, but it%26#039;s still grappling). So if Lebelle could do it, then a BJJ master would%26#039;ve probably been able to. (at least until Lee got the hang of BJJ)|||Bruce Lee I%26#039;d suggest.
Best wishes :)***|||Bruce Lee would NOT win every fight, there will always be some one out there better then the next person; Bruce Lee included.|||Depends who the Jujutsu (or Brazilian Jiu jitsu) master is.|||Chuck Norris|||Chuck Norris always wins.
Is there such thing as "garage style jujitsu??
I didnt think so but sum dung-a$$ did.|||Never heard of nor knew such a style existed.
Where and when did it originate?|||there is %26quot;Mexican Judo%26quot; %26quot;Judo know who you messin%26#039; wit man%26quot;
Where and when did it originate?|||there is %26quot;Mexican Judo%26quot; %26quot;Judo know who you messin%26#039; wit man%26quot;
What is a good Brazilian Jujitsu training camp in Brazil?
all of them...gracies specifically|||http://www.brasilcapoeira.ch/
A little Capoeira is always fun|||the only reason to go to brazil to train in bjj instead of learning in the states is to pick up brazillian chicks who are easier than prudish american chicks.
A little Capoeira is always fun|||the only reason to go to brazil to train in bjj instead of learning in the states is to pick up brazillian chicks who are easier than prudish american chicks.
Where can I learn Jujitsu in the Dallas area?
Try www.martialartsites.com and www.smartpages.com under Martial Arts Instruction.
Is there any fighting style better than jujitsu? I doubt there is, but if you know one limme know.?
Jujitsu is an excellent martial art, however there are many schools of jujitsu and many teachers. If you%26#039;re thinking about taking up a martial art, you need to consider your sensei and the quality of his instruction first and foremost.
In terms of practical situations, many types of jujitsu can offer you excellent training in ways to resolve physical confrontations without seriously injuring the other person or being injured yourself, which I think is probably for the best. Beating someone badly or killing them is not to your advantage in most situations, unless you are intentionally getting yourself into fights or attacking people, which I do not advise.|||Kenpo Karate when applied correctly, Kage No Michi Ninjutsu (www.thewayoftheshadow.com), Kung Fu, Muay Thai are all IMO better than Jujitsu. Jujitsu lacks effective striking, takedowns and has no weapon training. Yeah sure grappling, but a good striker can dominate a grappler b4 they hit the ground. Report Abuse
|||Ju Jitsu is just not orthodox.....grapplings not much of an art......too limited and too boring for my taste. Report Abuse
|||Perhaps Wing Chun? As in individual one-on-one bare handed fight/self defense? Shorei-Ryu?- The techniques I learned were direct and worked good defense and tournament. Shotokan upper level fighters I knew in police dept and open tournament fighting survived-couple opponents didn%26#039;t attacking/resisting police. Should note that Shotokan schools derived from the Japanese school have a knowledge of Judo and Jujitsu in training, Shorei-Ryu from Okinawa has some intro to grappling arts, Wing-Chun advanced school teaches other style possiblities attacks and defenses.|||How about Muay Thai? What are you going to do if your only trained in BJJ and your facing multiple attackers? I dont%26#039; thing you%26#039;ll be able to tap more than on person at a time, but you can strike with more than one if trained correctly. BJJ is a great fighting style, but like any other it has it%26#039;s weak spots. |||All styles have their positives and negatives,although saying that for me personally Japanese jiu-jitsu has more answers than any style I have trained in personally but that%26#039;s not to say it%26#039;s the best,only it%26#039;s always the individual person who makes the martial art work regardless of style.
Best wishes :)*** |||the shorin ryu okinawan karate i do (it could be modified idk) incorporates pressure points, joint locks, defense against the most common attacks you%26#039;ll see on the street fighting kata%26#039;s, weapon kata%26#039;s (bo staff is very applicable to the street) and nerve strikes etc. as well as all of the traditional karate training
I would say that it is much more complete than jj
OH and i almost forgot to mention, body toughness training which is where you take hits on all parts of your body so you become more immune to strikes as well as hardening bones|||there is no best fighting style.
if you get attacked by mulitple poeple rolling on the ground with one is just gunna get the crap kicked out of you. and there is a good chance anyone who attacks you will have friends near by.|||All fighting styles are the same. It is he or she that puts effort and time to make that stlye work for them. It is then that the best style is what you deem it to be. |||There is no best fighting styles.
When you fight, it is not the style that fights, but the person.|||M.C.M.A.P. Oh wait you are calling armed Marines cowards.|||The style is only as good as what the fighter puts into it.|||Shootfighting. Strikes AND submissions!|||Korean Rock Soldier Training. You would have to see it to believe it. Damn, them guys are BAAAAAAAD|||a fighting is only better if you know how to use it properly|||Chuck Norris.
:T|||shaolin kung fu ||| Its called gun ownership, try your jujitsu out against THAT!!!|||it doesn%26#039;t really matter
In terms of practical situations, many types of jujitsu can offer you excellent training in ways to resolve physical confrontations without seriously injuring the other person or being injured yourself, which I think is probably for the best. Beating someone badly or killing them is not to your advantage in most situations, unless you are intentionally getting yourself into fights or attacking people, which I do not advise.|||Kenpo Karate when applied correctly, Kage No Michi Ninjutsu (www.thewayoftheshadow.com), Kung Fu, Muay Thai are all IMO better than Jujitsu. Jujitsu lacks effective striking, takedowns and has no weapon training. Yeah sure grappling, but a good striker can dominate a grappler b4 they hit the ground. Report Abuse
|||Ju Jitsu is just not orthodox.....grapplings not much of an art......too limited and too boring for my taste. Report Abuse
|||Perhaps Wing Chun? As in individual one-on-one bare handed fight/self defense? Shorei-Ryu?- The techniques I learned were direct and worked good defense and tournament. Shotokan upper level fighters I knew in police dept and open tournament fighting survived-couple opponents didn%26#039;t attacking/resisting police. Should note that Shotokan schools derived from the Japanese school have a knowledge of Judo and Jujitsu in training, Shorei-Ryu from Okinawa has some intro to grappling arts, Wing-Chun advanced school teaches other style possiblities attacks and defenses.|||How about Muay Thai? What are you going to do if your only trained in BJJ and your facing multiple attackers? I dont%26#039; thing you%26#039;ll be able to tap more than on person at a time, but you can strike with more than one if trained correctly. BJJ is a great fighting style, but like any other it has it%26#039;s weak spots. |||All styles have their positives and negatives,although saying that for me personally Japanese jiu-jitsu has more answers than any style I have trained in personally but that%26#039;s not to say it%26#039;s the best,only it%26#039;s always the individual person who makes the martial art work regardless of style.
Best wishes :)*** |||the shorin ryu okinawan karate i do (it could be modified idk) incorporates pressure points, joint locks, defense against the most common attacks you%26#039;ll see on the street fighting kata%26#039;s, weapon kata%26#039;s (bo staff is very applicable to the street) and nerve strikes etc. as well as all of the traditional karate training
I would say that it is much more complete than jj
OH and i almost forgot to mention, body toughness training which is where you take hits on all parts of your body so you become more immune to strikes as well as hardening bones|||there is no best fighting style.
if you get attacked by mulitple poeple rolling on the ground with one is just gunna get the crap kicked out of you. and there is a good chance anyone who attacks you will have friends near by.|||All fighting styles are the same. It is he or she that puts effort and time to make that stlye work for them. It is then that the best style is what you deem it to be. |||There is no best fighting styles.
When you fight, it is not the style that fights, but the person.|||M.C.M.A.P. Oh wait you are calling armed Marines cowards.|||The style is only as good as what the fighter puts into it.|||Shootfighting. Strikes AND submissions!|||Korean Rock Soldier Training. You would have to see it to believe it. Damn, them guys are BAAAAAAAD|||a fighting is only better if you know how to use it properly|||Chuck Norris.
:T|||shaolin kung fu ||| Its called gun ownership, try your jujitsu out against THAT!!!|||it doesn%26#039;t really matter
Are there any sites where I can study Muay Thai or Brazilian Jujitsu techniques online?
I%26#039;d love to be able to study the arts in my spare time, without having to carry books with me, or without the need of an instructor, it would be an easy way for me to keep the stuff fresh in my mind between classes for example. Thanks alot|||You can learn %26quot;about%26quot; them online, but you cannot study them online. Muay Thai is not learned from a book or a computer.|||Thank you for the congratulations, but all I did was say %26quot;Yes%26quot; when a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity was presented to me. Report Abuse
|||One of the easier martial arts to learn by yourself is capoeira. Although the nature of the sport is to %26#039;play%26#039; with others, the basic moves and sequences can be practised by yourself in an open space. For example, classic moves like the cartwheel can be practised and once you have mastered that, build on it to incorporate other moves and learn to blend them seamlessly into eachother to be used when you do ever attend a class. Obviously, practising alone can never replicate the reactions and thinking you need when playing with others, but can help build balance, confidence, strength and flexibility|||Try the link below. J J Machado is a top BJJ%26#039;er (ex-world champion) and his online training system has been critically acclaimed.
It should only be used in conjunction with taught classes IMO but he does state you can get awarded belts (with extended membership) using his online system alone.
http://jeanjacquesmachado.com/onlinetrai...
Good luck!!|||Go to www.mmadrills.com the have alot of materials on training
Later
Matt|||That mauaytia (okay sorry about the spelling) on line website it does not open is it just made up for a short answer? I like websites for new info and keeping up motivation between classes|||if you really want to get tough and think u can do it find out about master Sken muay Thai|||Hi,
Master Sken Sitnarong camp..xx
mastersken.com|||Jean Marquis Machado online bjj course. look it up.|||You%26#039;ll never learn properly without a qualified instructor. There isn%26#039;t an easy way of learning martial arts.|||www.muaythaionline.net/|||Ur better off buying an instructional DVD, there are tonnes for Brazilian jiu jitsu, i have a couple and use them to jog my memory between classes plus they give u some advanced subs so u can catch out the other white belst in the class
as a beginners DVD i recommend renzo Gracie%26#039;s DVD
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gracie-Jiu-Jitsu...
for more advanced techniques try eduardo telles, marcello garcia or eddie bravo
http://jiujitsuprogear.com//index.php?cP...
im not into muay thai so much so i cant help u there|||try youtube.com they have lots of martial arts tutorials and tips|||Look in youtube for good demos ........put youtube brazilian ju jitsu into Google......you will get thousands of references ..and instructions for free !
|||One of the easier martial arts to learn by yourself is capoeira. Although the nature of the sport is to %26#039;play%26#039; with others, the basic moves and sequences can be practised by yourself in an open space. For example, classic moves like the cartwheel can be practised and once you have mastered that, build on it to incorporate other moves and learn to blend them seamlessly into eachother to be used when you do ever attend a class. Obviously, practising alone can never replicate the reactions and thinking you need when playing with others, but can help build balance, confidence, strength and flexibility|||Try the link below. J J Machado is a top BJJ%26#039;er (ex-world champion) and his online training system has been critically acclaimed.
It should only be used in conjunction with taught classes IMO but he does state you can get awarded belts (with extended membership) using his online system alone.
http://jeanjacquesmachado.com/onlinetrai...
Good luck!!|||Go to www.mmadrills.com the have alot of materials on training
Later
Matt|||That mauaytia (okay sorry about the spelling) on line website it does not open is it just made up for a short answer? I like websites for new info and keeping up motivation between classes|||if you really want to get tough and think u can do it find out about master Sken muay Thai|||Hi,
Master Sken Sitnarong camp..xx
mastersken.com|||Jean Marquis Machado online bjj course. look it up.|||You%26#039;ll never learn properly without a qualified instructor. There isn%26#039;t an easy way of learning martial arts.|||www.muaythaionline.net/|||Ur better off buying an instructional DVD, there are tonnes for Brazilian jiu jitsu, i have a couple and use them to jog my memory between classes plus they give u some advanced subs so u can catch out the other white belst in the class
as a beginners DVD i recommend renzo Gracie%26#039;s DVD
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gracie-Jiu-Jitsu...
for more advanced techniques try eduardo telles, marcello garcia or eddie bravo
http://jiujitsuprogear.com//index.php?cP...
im not into muay thai so much so i cant help u there|||try youtube.com they have lots of martial arts tutorials and tips|||Look in youtube for good demos ........put youtube brazilian ju jitsu into Google......you will get thousands of references ..and instructions for free !
Is there any fighting style better than jujitsu? I doubt there is, but if you know one limme know.?
Jujitsu is an excellent martial art, however there are many schools of jujitsu and many teachers. If you%26#039;re thinking about taking up a martial art, you need to consider your sensei and the quality of his instruction first and foremost.
In terms of practical situations, many types of jujitsu can offer you excellent training in ways to resolve physical confrontations without seriously injuring the other person or being injured yourself, which I think is probably for the best. Beating someone badly or killing them is not to your advantage in most situations, unless you are intentionally getting yourself into fights or attacking people, which I do not advise.|||Kenpo Karate when applied correctly, Kage No Michi Ninjutsu (www.thewayoftheshadow.com), Kung Fu, Muay Thai are all IMO better than Jujitsu. Jujitsu lacks effective striking, takedowns and has no weapon training. Yeah sure grappling, but a good striker can dominate a grappler b4 they hit the ground. Report Abuse
|||Ju Jitsu is just not orthodox.....grapplings not much of an art......too limited and too boring for my taste. Report Abuse
|||Perhaps Wing Chun? As in individual one-on-one bare handed fight/self defense? Shorei-Ryu?- The techniques I learned were direct and worked good defense and tournament. Shotokan upper level fighters I knew in police dept and open tournament fighting survived-couple opponents didn%26#039;t attacking/resisting police. Should note that Shotokan schools derived from the Japanese school have a knowledge of Judo and Jujitsu in training, Shorei-Ryu from Okinawa has some intro to grappling arts, Wing-Chun advanced school teaches other style possiblities attacks and defenses.|||How about Muay Thai? What are you going to do if your only trained in BJJ and your facing multiple attackers? I dont%26#039; thing you%26#039;ll be able to tap more than on person at a time, but you can strike with more than one if trained correctly. BJJ is a great fighting style, but like any other it has it%26#039;s weak spots. |||All styles have their positives and negatives,although saying that for me personally Japanese jiu-jitsu has more answers than any style I have trained in personally but that%26#039;s not to say it%26#039;s the best,only it%26#039;s always the individual person who makes the martial art work regardless of style.
Best wishes :)*** |||the shorin ryu okinawan karate i do (it could be modified idk) incorporates pressure points, joint locks, defense against the most common attacks you%26#039;ll see on the street fighting kata%26#039;s, weapon kata%26#039;s (bo staff is very applicable to the street) and nerve strikes etc. as well as all of the traditional karate training
I would say that it is much more complete than jj
OH and i almost forgot to mention, body toughness training which is where you take hits on all parts of your body so you become more immune to strikes as well as hardening bones|||there is no best fighting style.
if you get attacked by mulitple poeple rolling on the ground with one is just gunna get the crap kicked out of you. and there is a good chance anyone who attacks you will have friends near by.|||All fighting styles are the same. It is he or she that puts effort and time to make that stlye work for them. It is then that the best style is what you deem it to be. |||There is no best fighting styles.
When you fight, it is not the style that fights, but the person.|||M.C.M.A.P. Oh wait you are calling armed Marines cowards.|||The style is only as good as what the fighter puts into it.|||Shootfighting. Strikes AND submissions!|||Korean Rock Soldier Training. You would have to see it to believe it. Damn, them guys are BAAAAAAAD|||a fighting is only better if you know how to use it properly|||Chuck Norris.
:T|||shaolin kung fu ||| Its called gun ownership, try your jujitsu out against THAT!!!|||it doesn%26#039;t really matter
In terms of practical situations, many types of jujitsu can offer you excellent training in ways to resolve physical confrontations without seriously injuring the other person or being injured yourself, which I think is probably for the best. Beating someone badly or killing them is not to your advantage in most situations, unless you are intentionally getting yourself into fights or attacking people, which I do not advise.|||Kenpo Karate when applied correctly, Kage No Michi Ninjutsu (www.thewayoftheshadow.com), Kung Fu, Muay Thai are all IMO better than Jujitsu. Jujitsu lacks effective striking, takedowns and has no weapon training. Yeah sure grappling, but a good striker can dominate a grappler b4 they hit the ground. Report Abuse
|||Ju Jitsu is just not orthodox.....grapplings not much of an art......too limited and too boring for my taste. Report Abuse
|||Perhaps Wing Chun? As in individual one-on-one bare handed fight/self defense? Shorei-Ryu?- The techniques I learned were direct and worked good defense and tournament. Shotokan upper level fighters I knew in police dept and open tournament fighting survived-couple opponents didn%26#039;t attacking/resisting police. Should note that Shotokan schools derived from the Japanese school have a knowledge of Judo and Jujitsu in training, Shorei-Ryu from Okinawa has some intro to grappling arts, Wing-Chun advanced school teaches other style possiblities attacks and defenses.|||How about Muay Thai? What are you going to do if your only trained in BJJ and your facing multiple attackers? I dont%26#039; thing you%26#039;ll be able to tap more than on person at a time, but you can strike with more than one if trained correctly. BJJ is a great fighting style, but like any other it has it%26#039;s weak spots. |||All styles have their positives and negatives,although saying that for me personally Japanese jiu-jitsu has more answers than any style I have trained in personally but that%26#039;s not to say it%26#039;s the best,only it%26#039;s always the individual person who makes the martial art work regardless of style.
Best wishes :)*** |||the shorin ryu okinawan karate i do (it could be modified idk) incorporates pressure points, joint locks, defense against the most common attacks you%26#039;ll see on the street fighting kata%26#039;s, weapon kata%26#039;s (bo staff is very applicable to the street) and nerve strikes etc. as well as all of the traditional karate training
I would say that it is much more complete than jj
OH and i almost forgot to mention, body toughness training which is where you take hits on all parts of your body so you become more immune to strikes as well as hardening bones|||there is no best fighting style.
if you get attacked by mulitple poeple rolling on the ground with one is just gunna get the crap kicked out of you. and there is a good chance anyone who attacks you will have friends near by.|||All fighting styles are the same. It is he or she that puts effort and time to make that stlye work for them. It is then that the best style is what you deem it to be. |||There is no best fighting styles.
When you fight, it is not the style that fights, but the person.|||M.C.M.A.P. Oh wait you are calling armed Marines cowards.|||The style is only as good as what the fighter puts into it.|||Shootfighting. Strikes AND submissions!|||Korean Rock Soldier Training. You would have to see it to believe it. Damn, them guys are BAAAAAAAD|||a fighting is only better if you know how to use it properly|||Chuck Norris.
:T|||shaolin kung fu ||| Its called gun ownership, try your jujitsu out against THAT!!!|||it doesn%26#039;t really matter
Are there any sites where I can study Muay Thai or Brazilian Jujitsu techniques online?
I%26#039;d love to be able to study the arts in my spare time, without having to carry books with me, or without the need of an instructor, it would be an easy way for me to keep the stuff fresh in my mind between classes for example. Thanks alot|||You can learn %26quot;about%26quot; them online, but you cannot study them online. Muay Thai is not learned from a book or a computer.|||Thank you for the congratulations, but all I did was say %26quot;Yes%26quot; when a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity was presented to me. Report Abuse
|||One of the easier martial arts to learn by yourself is capoeira. Although the nature of the sport is to %26#039;play%26#039; with others, the basic moves and sequences can be practised by yourself in an open space. For example, classic moves like the cartwheel can be practised and once you have mastered that, build on it to incorporate other moves and learn to blend them seamlessly into eachother to be used when you do ever attend a class. Obviously, practising alone can never replicate the reactions and thinking you need when playing with others, but can help build balance, confidence, strength and flexibility|||Try the link below. J J Machado is a top BJJ%26#039;er (ex-world champion) and his online training system has been critically acclaimed.
It should only be used in conjunction with taught classes IMO but he does state you can get awarded belts (with extended membership) using his online system alone.
http://jeanjacquesmachado.com/onlinetrai...
Good luck!!|||Go to www.mmadrills.com the have alot of materials on training
Later
Matt|||That mauaytia (okay sorry about the spelling) on line website it does not open is it just made up for a short answer? I like websites for new info and keeping up motivation between classes|||if you really want to get tough and think u can do it find out about master Sken muay Thai|||Hi,
Master Sken Sitnarong camp..xx
mastersken.com|||Jean Marquis Machado online bjj course. look it up.|||You%26#039;ll never learn properly without a qualified instructor. There isn%26#039;t an easy way of learning martial arts.|||www.muaythaionline.net/|||Ur better off buying an instructional DVD, there are tonnes for Brazilian jiu jitsu, i have a couple and use them to jog my memory between classes plus they give u some advanced subs so u can catch out the other white belst in the class
as a beginners DVD i recommend renzo Gracie%26#039;s DVD
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gracie-Jiu-Jitsu...
for more advanced techniques try eduardo telles, marcello garcia or eddie bravo
http://jiujitsuprogear.com//index.php?cP...
im not into muay thai so much so i cant help u there|||try youtube.com they have lots of martial arts tutorials and tips|||Look in youtube for good demos ........put youtube brazilian ju jitsu into Google......you will get thousands of references ..and instructions for free !
|||One of the easier martial arts to learn by yourself is capoeira. Although the nature of the sport is to %26#039;play%26#039; with others, the basic moves and sequences can be practised by yourself in an open space. For example, classic moves like the cartwheel can be practised and once you have mastered that, build on it to incorporate other moves and learn to blend them seamlessly into eachother to be used when you do ever attend a class. Obviously, practising alone can never replicate the reactions and thinking you need when playing with others, but can help build balance, confidence, strength and flexibility|||Try the link below. J J Machado is a top BJJ%26#039;er (ex-world champion) and his online training system has been critically acclaimed.
It should only be used in conjunction with taught classes IMO but he does state you can get awarded belts (with extended membership) using his online system alone.
http://jeanjacquesmachado.com/onlinetrai...
Good luck!!|||Go to www.mmadrills.com the have alot of materials on training
Later
Matt|||That mauaytia (okay sorry about the spelling) on line website it does not open is it just made up for a short answer? I like websites for new info and keeping up motivation between classes|||if you really want to get tough and think u can do it find out about master Sken muay Thai|||Hi,
Master Sken Sitnarong camp..xx
mastersken.com|||Jean Marquis Machado online bjj course. look it up.|||You%26#039;ll never learn properly without a qualified instructor. There isn%26#039;t an easy way of learning martial arts.|||www.muaythaionline.net/|||Ur better off buying an instructional DVD, there are tonnes for Brazilian jiu jitsu, i have a couple and use them to jog my memory between classes plus they give u some advanced subs so u can catch out the other white belst in the class
as a beginners DVD i recommend renzo Gracie%26#039;s DVD
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gracie-Jiu-Jitsu...
for more advanced techniques try eduardo telles, marcello garcia or eddie bravo
http://jiujitsuprogear.com//index.php?cP...
im not into muay thai so much so i cant help u there|||try youtube.com they have lots of martial arts tutorials and tips|||Look in youtube for good demos ........put youtube brazilian ju jitsu into Google......you will get thousands of references ..and instructions for free !
For starters, would you recommend me to Muay Thai or Brazilian Jujitsu ?
For mma competition, or just for regular practice and sparring.
I will sooner or later practice both, but which would you recommend now?
I already know two other arts.|||in my very experienced opinion muay thai.a good stand up style will always stand you in better sted than ground fighting and grappling.thats not to say dont do it,but get a good stand up base first.or you could listen to the some of the other gibberish and obviously very inexperienced answerers here.|||Hi there
Without being predigest i would say always start with a dynamic striking art and then move onto grappling once you have mastered the basics. The reason behind this is that most fights begin with a punch or kick situation. It will usually end up on the floor which is where the grappling and ground work comes into play. If you want to work in Security then do grappling but realistically i very much doubt you will have to make someone submit in a real life situation. Its much more logical to start with strikes then grappling then after many years of training take out the hard stuff.
Keep it real and remember how many Policemen it takes to restrain and hold down an aggressive person? At least 4 or 5.
regards
idai|||It depends on what you%26#039;ve studied before. If you%26#039;re looking to build a base, go with what you%26#039;re least comfortable with. I knew that my standup game would be the hardest to master, so I started in boxing. Then I later went with BJJ.
As I suspected, I%26#039;m picking up BJJ a lot quicker and in about a year, I expect they%26#039;ll be about on par with one another.|||it would be best to take up muay thai first, its easier to master coz as a martial arts enthusiast i bet by now you already know how to punch and kick right..when you master that then take up jujitsu..so if you are in a fight you cant win standing up, you can always take him down on the mat..goodluck!|||That depends on your goal. For fitness, I can%26#039;t find any single activity more beneficial than muay thai. It%26#039;s also (as I%26#039;m sure you know) one of the most effective arts around. If you%26#039;re looking for functionality, BJJ is the way to go because you learn to apply it more quickly than muay thai, and the cardio%26#039;s nothing to sneeze at either.|||Brazillian Jujitsu hands down. Muay Thai, as powerful as it is focuses on strikes. Jujitsu cannot be effectivly countered unless you have a specialized knowledge in grappling which is far more specialized than striking.
When it comes down to it a striker is smart to always fear grappler%26#039;s. This is because most martial arts focus on striking and conditioning for the said strikes. An effective grappler uses less energy but also more spontineity.|||For pure fighting, you can%26#039;t beat (in my opinion) the Gracies.
I would start with Brazilian Jujitsu.
I will sooner or later practice both, but which would you recommend now?
I already know two other arts.|||in my very experienced opinion muay thai.a good stand up style will always stand you in better sted than ground fighting and grappling.thats not to say dont do it,but get a good stand up base first.or you could listen to the some of the other gibberish and obviously very inexperienced answerers here.|||Hi there
Without being predigest i would say always start with a dynamic striking art and then move onto grappling once you have mastered the basics. The reason behind this is that most fights begin with a punch or kick situation. It will usually end up on the floor which is where the grappling and ground work comes into play. If you want to work in Security then do grappling but realistically i very much doubt you will have to make someone submit in a real life situation. Its much more logical to start with strikes then grappling then after many years of training take out the hard stuff.
Keep it real and remember how many Policemen it takes to restrain and hold down an aggressive person? At least 4 or 5.
regards
idai|||It depends on what you%26#039;ve studied before. If you%26#039;re looking to build a base, go with what you%26#039;re least comfortable with. I knew that my standup game would be the hardest to master, so I started in boxing. Then I later went with BJJ.
As I suspected, I%26#039;m picking up BJJ a lot quicker and in about a year, I expect they%26#039;ll be about on par with one another.|||it would be best to take up muay thai first, its easier to master coz as a martial arts enthusiast i bet by now you already know how to punch and kick right..when you master that then take up jujitsu..so if you are in a fight you cant win standing up, you can always take him down on the mat..goodluck!|||That depends on your goal. For fitness, I can%26#039;t find any single activity more beneficial than muay thai. It%26#039;s also (as I%26#039;m sure you know) one of the most effective arts around. If you%26#039;re looking for functionality, BJJ is the way to go because you learn to apply it more quickly than muay thai, and the cardio%26#039;s nothing to sneeze at either.|||Brazillian Jujitsu hands down. Muay Thai, as powerful as it is focuses on strikes. Jujitsu cannot be effectivly countered unless you have a specialized knowledge in grappling which is far more specialized than striking.
When it comes down to it a striker is smart to always fear grappler%26#039;s. This is because most martial arts focus on striking and conditioning for the said strikes. An effective grappler uses less energy but also more spontineity.|||For pure fighting, you can%26#039;t beat (in my opinion) the Gracies.
I would start with Brazilian Jujitsu.
Good Jujitsu/Mixed Martial Arts Schools in NYC?
I want to learn MMA/Jujitsu. I am currently 17 and a half years of age and live in Brooklyn(Southern part; Bay Ridge), NY. Willing to pay for good or decent schools. Try and keep the school recommendations inside of Brooklyn unless it is a really good one.|||go to matt serra%26#039;s gym!|||In Flushing there is a Chinese Shaolin School Kung Fu. KUng Fu you know is the most powerfulest martial art in the world. First martial art to ever developed. Karate and Taekwondo were influence by the Chinese. I say go to Shaolin. They charge 5 times the price of other school but it is worth it.|||Dude I live in Brooklyn too
This school is RIGHT in Bay Ridge
http://www.brooklynbjj.com/
Hope I helped
This school is RIGHT in Bay Ridge
http://www.brooklynbjj.com/
Hope I helped
Which UFC fighters have the best of the following: Jujitsu, Wrestling, Kickboxing, Boxing and Takedowns?
Give me your top few guys in Each category. Here is mine
Jujitsu: 1) Nog, 2) BJJ and 3) Nick Diaz
Wrestling: 1) Henderson, 2) Hughes and 3) Couture
Kickboxing 1) Wanderlai Silva 2) Anderson Silva and Cro Cop
Boxing 1) Rampage 2) Henderson and 3) Chuck Liddell (even though Chuck is good with his legs I still would count him on of the best with his hands)
Takedowns 1) Karo Parisian 2) Matt Hughes and 3) Henderson
I may have screwed this all up. What do you all think? Feel free to give more then top 3 if you want.|||JJ: HW=Big Nog, LHW=Babalu, MW=Filho, WW=Penn, LW=Penn/Aoki
Judo: Parisyan.
Wrestling: HW=Couture, LHW=Henderson, MW=Henderson/Lindland, WW=Hughes/Koscheck, LW=Sherk
Kickboxing/Muay Thai: Cro Cop, Wanderlei, Shogun, Anderson Silva.
Boxing: Liddell, Rampage, Arlovski, Anderson Silva, Rich Franklin.
Takedowns: Arona, Filho, Koscheck, Parisyan, Lindland, Henderson, Hughes, Sherk.|||My list is best fighters in each individual combat sport rather than effective use in MMA, in other words not who has pulled off more Jiu Jitsu submissions in the octagon but who would get farther in the ADCC (yearly Jiu Jitsu tournament)
Jiu Jitsu- BJ Penn, Nick Diaz, Nog, Gonzaga, Shogun
Wrestling: Sean Sherk, Dan Henderson, Randy Couture, Josh Koscheck, GSP
Kickboxing: Anderson Silva, Mirko Cro Cop, Cheik Kongo, GSP
Boxing: Jens Pulver, Nick Diaz, GSP, Tim Sylvia, Rampage
Muay Tai: Anderson Silva, Wanderlie Silva, Shogun
Edit post UFC 74: as far as effective wrestling inside the octagon goes GSP all the way, he has now outwrestled Matt Hughes, Frank Trigg, Sean Sherk, and Josh Koscheck, all accomplished wrestlers who he not only avoided the takedown that they seem to get so easily on their other opponents, he took all of them down at will.|||JuJitsu: BJ Penn, Matt Sera, Nick Diez
Judo: Karo (I added this because the ground work is esentialy the same as JuJitsu and he is as good as the other 3)
Wrestling: Matt LindLund(not UFC but the best in MMA), Sean Sherk, Josh Kos, Matt Hughes (quickly on the way out though)...
Kickboxing: Anderson Silva, Cro-Cop,
Boxing... difficult to answer alot of good strikers but none of them are trained boxers.
Takedowns: Karo Parisyan, Sherk, Hughes (but again he is on the way out)
ADDITIONAL: Ok guys he said fighters ni the UFC not in all of MMA. Read the question properly first before answering.
And Joe B, GSP is not a wrestler nor is he a boxer. He trained in Karate for years growing up then switched to kickboxing 10 years ago and BJJ 6-7.
Like mentioned in another answer. It is hard and will only get harder to find the best at the rate the UFC fighters are growing and changing. I know that the guy with the belt isn%26#039;t the best. But in a couple of years that may be the only way of figurig out who is.|||I find it hard to believe that only 1 other person listed Rich Franklin. There are far too many talented gentlemen in the MMA to list a top list. Wait a few years and I%26#039;ll bet it will be even more difficult to list the best.|||matt Hughes has got everything end of discussion|||I would%26#039;nt call Anderson or Wanderlei kickboxers necessarily, they are more Muay Thai. Cro Cop is more of a old fashioned kickboxer. I would have to mostly agree with you except I would put Koshcheck up there for takedowns over Karo. I would put Karo%26#039;s judo up there for sure though. Werdum is a world renowned Brazilian Jui Jitsu stylist, more accomplished then Nick Diaz. Hendo has great hands, but not as good as the Iceman. And you got to have Scherk somewhere in there for wrestling even though he is a cheater.|||BJJ- BJ Penn, Big Nog
Wrestling- Henderson, Koscheck
Kickboxing- Cro Cop, GSP
Boxing- Rampage, Chris Lytle deserves a mention because he%26#039;s an accomplished pro boxer
Takedowns- Hughes, Karo%26#039;s throws are great to watch|||Jujitsu: Gonzaga (he really put a clinic on Carmelo Marerra if you didn%26#039;t see that fight)
Wrestling: Koscheck and Matt Lindland
Boxing: I have to go with St-Pierre because of his excellent footwork
Takedowns: Randy Couture
I%26#039;m probably forgetting some people but thats just everyone that comes to mind.|||My first reaction is that Koscheck is the best wrestler. But there are so many world class caliber wrestlers who transition over into MMA, that it really is a question that you could debate endlessly. I actually think, due to the importance of the clinch, greco-roman wrestling is an even stronger background for MMA than free-style or collegiate rules are. The team quest trio of Henderson, Couture and Lindland are all extremely accomplished greco-roman wrestlers, and if the question is, which former wrestler is best at using his wrestling background to win fights, you would have to pick one of those three.
Karo Parisian has some beautiful throws, but I don%26#039;t think his over-all takedowns are as good as any of the top tier wrestlers like Sherk, Hughes, Couture, etcetera.
For boxers, I think Marcus Davis might have about the best pro boxing resume of any current top MMA fighters.
I find it interesting that I don%26#039;t see Feder mentioned by anybody for any of these categories. But I am pretty sure a lot of us would still say he was the best over all fighter. I actually think he is one of the better boxers in the heavy weight class.
Jujitsu: 1) Nog, 2) BJJ and 3) Nick Diaz
Wrestling: 1) Henderson, 2) Hughes and 3) Couture
Kickboxing 1) Wanderlai Silva 2) Anderson Silva and Cro Cop
Boxing 1) Rampage 2) Henderson and 3) Chuck Liddell (even though Chuck is good with his legs I still would count him on of the best with his hands)
Takedowns 1) Karo Parisian 2) Matt Hughes and 3) Henderson
I may have screwed this all up. What do you all think? Feel free to give more then top 3 if you want.|||JJ: HW=Big Nog, LHW=Babalu, MW=Filho, WW=Penn, LW=Penn/Aoki
Judo: Parisyan.
Wrestling: HW=Couture, LHW=Henderson, MW=Henderson/Lindland, WW=Hughes/Koscheck, LW=Sherk
Kickboxing/Muay Thai: Cro Cop, Wanderlei, Shogun, Anderson Silva.
Boxing: Liddell, Rampage, Arlovski, Anderson Silva, Rich Franklin.
Takedowns: Arona, Filho, Koscheck, Parisyan, Lindland, Henderson, Hughes, Sherk.|||My list is best fighters in each individual combat sport rather than effective use in MMA, in other words not who has pulled off more Jiu Jitsu submissions in the octagon but who would get farther in the ADCC (yearly Jiu Jitsu tournament)
Jiu Jitsu- BJ Penn, Nick Diaz, Nog, Gonzaga, Shogun
Wrestling: Sean Sherk, Dan Henderson, Randy Couture, Josh Koscheck, GSP
Kickboxing: Anderson Silva, Mirko Cro Cop, Cheik Kongo, GSP
Boxing: Jens Pulver, Nick Diaz, GSP, Tim Sylvia, Rampage
Muay Tai: Anderson Silva, Wanderlie Silva, Shogun
Edit post UFC 74: as far as effective wrestling inside the octagon goes GSP all the way, he has now outwrestled Matt Hughes, Frank Trigg, Sean Sherk, and Josh Koscheck, all accomplished wrestlers who he not only avoided the takedown that they seem to get so easily on their other opponents, he took all of them down at will.|||JuJitsu: BJ Penn, Matt Sera, Nick Diez
Judo: Karo (I added this because the ground work is esentialy the same as JuJitsu and he is as good as the other 3)
Wrestling: Matt LindLund(not UFC but the best in MMA), Sean Sherk, Josh Kos, Matt Hughes (quickly on the way out though)...
Kickboxing: Anderson Silva, Cro-Cop,
Boxing... difficult to answer alot of good strikers but none of them are trained boxers.
Takedowns: Karo Parisyan, Sherk, Hughes (but again he is on the way out)
ADDITIONAL: Ok guys he said fighters ni the UFC not in all of MMA. Read the question properly first before answering.
And Joe B, GSP is not a wrestler nor is he a boxer. He trained in Karate for years growing up then switched to kickboxing 10 years ago and BJJ 6-7.
Like mentioned in another answer. It is hard and will only get harder to find the best at the rate the UFC fighters are growing and changing. I know that the guy with the belt isn%26#039;t the best. But in a couple of years that may be the only way of figurig out who is.|||I find it hard to believe that only 1 other person listed Rich Franklin. There are far too many talented gentlemen in the MMA to list a top list. Wait a few years and I%26#039;ll bet it will be even more difficult to list the best.|||matt Hughes has got everything end of discussion|||I would%26#039;nt call Anderson or Wanderlei kickboxers necessarily, they are more Muay Thai. Cro Cop is more of a old fashioned kickboxer. I would have to mostly agree with you except I would put Koshcheck up there for takedowns over Karo. I would put Karo%26#039;s judo up there for sure though. Werdum is a world renowned Brazilian Jui Jitsu stylist, more accomplished then Nick Diaz. Hendo has great hands, but not as good as the Iceman. And you got to have Scherk somewhere in there for wrestling even though he is a cheater.|||BJJ- BJ Penn, Big Nog
Wrestling- Henderson, Koscheck
Kickboxing- Cro Cop, GSP
Boxing- Rampage, Chris Lytle deserves a mention because he%26#039;s an accomplished pro boxer
Takedowns- Hughes, Karo%26#039;s throws are great to watch|||Jujitsu: Gonzaga (he really put a clinic on Carmelo Marerra if you didn%26#039;t see that fight)
Wrestling: Koscheck and Matt Lindland
Boxing: I have to go with St-Pierre because of his excellent footwork
Takedowns: Randy Couture
I%26#039;m probably forgetting some people but thats just everyone that comes to mind.|||My first reaction is that Koscheck is the best wrestler. But there are so many world class caliber wrestlers who transition over into MMA, that it really is a question that you could debate endlessly. I actually think, due to the importance of the clinch, greco-roman wrestling is an even stronger background for MMA than free-style or collegiate rules are. The team quest trio of Henderson, Couture and Lindland are all extremely accomplished greco-roman wrestlers, and if the question is, which former wrestler is best at using his wrestling background to win fights, you would have to pick one of those three.
Karo Parisian has some beautiful throws, but I don%26#039;t think his over-all takedowns are as good as any of the top tier wrestlers like Sherk, Hughes, Couture, etcetera.
For boxers, I think Marcus Davis might have about the best pro boxing resume of any current top MMA fighters.
I find it interesting that I don%26#039;t see Feder mentioned by anybody for any of these categories. But I am pretty sure a lot of us would still say he was the best over all fighter. I actually think he is one of the better boxers in the heavy weight class.
Please help me to understand how to not use my strength when I roll durring jujitsu
Once someone grabs a hold of you it is so hard to not use strength. Is there anything you can say to help me|||%26quot;ju%26quot; means to yeild. often it is translated as %26quot;soft%26quot; or %26quot;gentle%26quot; ...but anyone who%26#039;s practiced it can tell you it isnt a %26quot;kindness of heart%26quot; (though that comes later)
ju means to yeild to force. rather than fighting it directly...strength on strength.
if i come barreling at you on a bicycle. you have 2 main options.
1 you can stand there and let me hit you and HOPE you are strong enough to stop my force directly
2 you can simply step to the side and give me a light shove from the side and send me flying off course.
this is how %26quot;4 oz can move 1000 lbs%26quot; ...an expression often used in chinese martial arts.
don%26#039;t fight strength directly with more strength. just go with %26#039;em...if he wants to go that way....go that way.
when he pushes, rather than pushing back...pull! when he pulls...you push!
if you grab my lapels and walk forcefully forward shoving me backward...rather than pushing back to see which of us is stronger. ill simply step back and pull you in the direction you are already moving...but faster than your feet can keep up. ie....now i can throw you...hip throws, shoulder throws, circle throws...body drops...all kinds of throws.
on the ground it%26#039;d be like bridging someone out of the mount. you try bridging right, but he resists you...so bridge left suddenly and he%26#039;s already going the direction you want him to go.
a prime example is when you are mounted on your opponent and he turns...you dont try to stop him from turning...you just put that knee up and let him turn...and he just gave you his back! that is a great example of using %26quot;ju%26quot;|||basically %26quot;when pushed you pull when pulled you push%26quot;in other words you allow him to use his strength in the direction he wants to use it and make him extend his energy past the point of accomplishing his goal.
Now the bad news unfortunately the complete technical expertise and knowledge of doing this I have never found in any one art as each only has part of the answer depending on their concept of what an %26quot;attack%26quot; is.
JUDO is mainly stand up grappling and throwing BJJ is mainly ground work AIKIDO is mainly opponents charging at you from a few feet away .
Each has part of the answer but each is limited by not having the whole answer..
You should not think of not applying strength but using what you have in a constructive %26quot;steering%26quot; the opponent to where you want him to be and that usually involves using the direction in which he is using his strength to over extend .himself.This can be large scale as in a charging attack or small scale as in defeating an arm bar or any lock..|||Most of the answers are already give, but let me just add my two cents.
It%26#039;s not completely about %26quot;not using straight%26quot;, its more about how, where, and when do you use strength to overcome an opponent in the commission of a technique.
The problem with using strength as an initial response is that if the attacker is stronger than you, you will lose. However, if you know a technique and apply the strength in commission of the technique, you will have better chances of success.
In other words, learn your techniques, THEN use strength to supplement the leverage of your techniques.|||I%26#039;d say just try not to muscle your way through things. Try to make the technique happen by moving and utilizing the proper angles and stuff -- vague as that is. Also, if one technique isn%26#039;t quite working, rather than trying to power through it, attack another opening instead. (ie: you%26#039;re trying to pry his grip apart for an armbar but he%26#039;s too strong. catch him in a bicep-slicer instead.)
Oh and...
Two specific energy savers that I can think of would be to keep your elbows and arms close to your core when you%26#039;re on the bottom and keep your center low when you%26#039;re on top. The further from your body that your arms are, the weaker you are. Hence you%26#039;ll have to expend more strength and energy to compensate.
in terms of gi, I have no clue though. I always used too much strength in gi. |||Thats something wil will eventually learn with a lot more practise. good luck.
http://markstraining.com Fighting and Training Methods for Unarmed Martial Artists.|||when you roll just practice using less strength. like practice flowing with your partner then it will slowly come by.
ju means to yeild to force. rather than fighting it directly...strength on strength.
if i come barreling at you on a bicycle. you have 2 main options.
1 you can stand there and let me hit you and HOPE you are strong enough to stop my force directly
2 you can simply step to the side and give me a light shove from the side and send me flying off course.
this is how %26quot;4 oz can move 1000 lbs%26quot; ...an expression often used in chinese martial arts.
don%26#039;t fight strength directly with more strength. just go with %26#039;em...if he wants to go that way....go that way.
when he pushes, rather than pushing back...pull! when he pulls...you push!
if you grab my lapels and walk forcefully forward shoving me backward...rather than pushing back to see which of us is stronger. ill simply step back and pull you in the direction you are already moving...but faster than your feet can keep up. ie....now i can throw you...hip throws, shoulder throws, circle throws...body drops...all kinds of throws.
on the ground it%26#039;d be like bridging someone out of the mount. you try bridging right, but he resists you...so bridge left suddenly and he%26#039;s already going the direction you want him to go.
a prime example is when you are mounted on your opponent and he turns...you dont try to stop him from turning...you just put that knee up and let him turn...and he just gave you his back! that is a great example of using %26quot;ju%26quot;|||basically %26quot;when pushed you pull when pulled you push%26quot;in other words you allow him to use his strength in the direction he wants to use it and make him extend his energy past the point of accomplishing his goal.
Now the bad news unfortunately the complete technical expertise and knowledge of doing this I have never found in any one art as each only has part of the answer depending on their concept of what an %26quot;attack%26quot; is.
JUDO is mainly stand up grappling and throwing BJJ is mainly ground work AIKIDO is mainly opponents charging at you from a few feet away .
Each has part of the answer but each is limited by not having the whole answer..
You should not think of not applying strength but using what you have in a constructive %26quot;steering%26quot; the opponent to where you want him to be and that usually involves using the direction in which he is using his strength to over extend .himself.This can be large scale as in a charging attack or small scale as in defeating an arm bar or any lock..|||Most of the answers are already give, but let me just add my two cents.
It%26#039;s not completely about %26quot;not using straight%26quot;, its more about how, where, and when do you use strength to overcome an opponent in the commission of a technique.
The problem with using strength as an initial response is that if the attacker is stronger than you, you will lose. However, if you know a technique and apply the strength in commission of the technique, you will have better chances of success.
In other words, learn your techniques, THEN use strength to supplement the leverage of your techniques.|||I%26#039;d say just try not to muscle your way through things. Try to make the technique happen by moving and utilizing the proper angles and stuff -- vague as that is. Also, if one technique isn%26#039;t quite working, rather than trying to power through it, attack another opening instead. (ie: you%26#039;re trying to pry his grip apart for an armbar but he%26#039;s too strong. catch him in a bicep-slicer instead.)
Oh and...
Two specific energy savers that I can think of would be to keep your elbows and arms close to your core when you%26#039;re on the bottom and keep your center low when you%26#039;re on top. The further from your body that your arms are, the weaker you are. Hence you%26#039;ll have to expend more strength and energy to compensate.
in terms of gi, I have no clue though. I always used too much strength in gi. |||Thats something wil will eventually learn with a lot more practise. good luck.
http://markstraining.com Fighting and Training Methods for Unarmed Martial Artists.|||when you roll just practice using less strength. like practice flowing with your partner then it will slowly come by.
I am wanting to become a cop, Should I continue Krav Maga, or Jujitsu, or both?
I been studying both for years, you think they make a good combination?|||As long as you train with justifiable force in mind, both would serve you well.
I%26#039;ve seen numerous dash board cam videos of police officers who face a violent suspect. It usually begins with the suspect charging in to close the distance. From their it moves into a grappling situation either with the suspect throwing punches or taking the officer to the ground. Jujitsu would be good for addressing such and attack.
However, when it moves from just grappling to a suspect trying to go for your gun or trying to harm you so they can get away.... All bets are off. And Krava Maga does work on situations where a weapon is in play in the situation and how to manage that aspect. More traditional Jujitsu studies don%26#039;t always address this aspect, at least not in a realistic way.
So, I%26#039;d say stick with both if you have the option. Don%26#039;t throw out a resource just because you have to keep a mind on legal restrictions.
Another resource I%26#039;d advise you to look up is Tony Blauer of SPEAR method. He trains officers about dealing with those moments before the attack and that %26quot;jack-in-the-box%26quot; moment when a suspect decides to go after you.
Here are a couple of interesting links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWeCWtI3d...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ID6rnSMP...
Be well.|||Learning both won%26#039;t hurt however as a police officer it%26#039;s your job to control and restrain, therefore Jiujitsu would be a bit more suited for some of those pesky situations. Retain Krav Maga knowledge for when all hell breaks and you don%26#039;t have or have time to draw your service weapon. Krav Maga has some excellent gun retention techniques.
Edit: Just a clarification, you shouldn%26#039;t get the idea of letting your guard down by %26quot;looking%26quot; for a close quarter situation because you%26#039;re versed in Jiujitsu. Only for takedown/locking/restraining purposes and in the worse case scenarios where you have split seconds to react. You generally do not let a suspect get close enough to where he can strike at you or reach for your weapon. Cops have strength in numbers and they maintain that distance by drawing the line in the sand and giving verbal orders.|||A police officer is not allowed to kick or punch anyone. Japanese Jujitsu has many skills that would compliment your training as a police officer. Most of it can be used in a police situation. Much of Krav Maga can not be used due to the types of techniques. Reminds me of a bunch of guys being tested during their training as State Police in South Carolina some years ago. Several of them had Tae Kwon Do training. One was trained in Jujitsu by one of my instructors. When the played traffic stop the TKD guys could not get their driver out of the car. The jujitsu guy had him out of the care and cuffed.|||One of the guys in my Aikido class is one of the hand-to-hand trainers for the local police academy. Another takes jujitsu - they tend to work out together and trade techniques with one another. To the best of my knowledge, cops are not allowed to punch a suspect without cause - but are allowed to restrain a suspect with considerably more leeway. So you%26#039;ll probably use the jujitsu more during your work than the krav. Less armbars and ground work than you might do in class, but basic locks and holds are the bread and butter of law enforcement.
That said, even my friend admits that he doesn%26#039;t get to use the techniques often. Cops don%26#039;t wade into a brawl if they can help it, they call for backup and gain numerical and tactical superiority (the smart thing of course). They are more likely to use a dogpile than a mount for instance.
Of course, lets face it. Who uses krav or jujitsu in normal life anyway? We train because we like to train, and for that one off moment when we might have to use it. Many will go their whole life without having to use it, just as cops can go their whole career and never fire their gun at anyone. That doesn%26#039;t stop them from going to the range, and it shouldn%26#039;t stop you from training however you want. You%26#039;ll have a leg up on many other officers, and might be able to teach them a thing or two that could help them. Stick with whichever (or both) that you enjoy.|||Both...simple answer but I would recommend that you take Police Defense Tactical training such as Close Quarter%26#039;s Combatives, Last Resort Tactics and Pressure Point Control Tactics since most police officers will tell you that you need specific training and not some generalized program like Krav Maga.|||As an officer, when will you have to do hand to hand combat? When some one comes at you right? And when a guy tries to fight an officer, what does he typically do? Tries to tackle him, get him down and run. So, If you were to learn Judo, you could throw attackers off and on their head, then use jiu jitsu, or krav maga either or to subdue him.|||You already know a hell of a lot more than the average cop. They have guns, back up and mace. As a generalization the average cop doesn%26#039;t know much about hand to hand combat, and a lot of chokes are prohibited for use by law enforcement, so you should be good.|||Continue with both if that works for you.
Although as others have said jiu-jitsu re: restraining techniques may be more suited to your job.
Best wishes :)***|||jujutsu its more realistic
as a police officer you cannt do eye gouges, and beat them into submision, you need to follow the letter of the law|||I tink krav maga is to brutal to use as i cop , jujitsu is great and maybe
some aikido,judo.|||try judo, aikido, or sambo|||Do Baptists attack or defend?
I%26#039;ve seen numerous dash board cam videos of police officers who face a violent suspect. It usually begins with the suspect charging in to close the distance. From their it moves into a grappling situation either with the suspect throwing punches or taking the officer to the ground. Jujitsu would be good for addressing such and attack.
However, when it moves from just grappling to a suspect trying to go for your gun or trying to harm you so they can get away.... All bets are off. And Krava Maga does work on situations where a weapon is in play in the situation and how to manage that aspect. More traditional Jujitsu studies don%26#039;t always address this aspect, at least not in a realistic way.
So, I%26#039;d say stick with both if you have the option. Don%26#039;t throw out a resource just because you have to keep a mind on legal restrictions.
Another resource I%26#039;d advise you to look up is Tony Blauer of SPEAR method. He trains officers about dealing with those moments before the attack and that %26quot;jack-in-the-box%26quot; moment when a suspect decides to go after you.
Here are a couple of interesting links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWeCWtI3d...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ID6rnSMP...
Be well.|||Learning both won%26#039;t hurt however as a police officer it%26#039;s your job to control and restrain, therefore Jiujitsu would be a bit more suited for some of those pesky situations. Retain Krav Maga knowledge for when all hell breaks and you don%26#039;t have or have time to draw your service weapon. Krav Maga has some excellent gun retention techniques.
Edit: Just a clarification, you shouldn%26#039;t get the idea of letting your guard down by %26quot;looking%26quot; for a close quarter situation because you%26#039;re versed in Jiujitsu. Only for takedown/locking/restraining purposes and in the worse case scenarios where you have split seconds to react. You generally do not let a suspect get close enough to where he can strike at you or reach for your weapon. Cops have strength in numbers and they maintain that distance by drawing the line in the sand and giving verbal orders.|||A police officer is not allowed to kick or punch anyone. Japanese Jujitsu has many skills that would compliment your training as a police officer. Most of it can be used in a police situation. Much of Krav Maga can not be used due to the types of techniques. Reminds me of a bunch of guys being tested during their training as State Police in South Carolina some years ago. Several of them had Tae Kwon Do training. One was trained in Jujitsu by one of my instructors. When the played traffic stop the TKD guys could not get their driver out of the car. The jujitsu guy had him out of the care and cuffed.|||One of the guys in my Aikido class is one of the hand-to-hand trainers for the local police academy. Another takes jujitsu - they tend to work out together and trade techniques with one another. To the best of my knowledge, cops are not allowed to punch a suspect without cause - but are allowed to restrain a suspect with considerably more leeway. So you%26#039;ll probably use the jujitsu more during your work than the krav. Less armbars and ground work than you might do in class, but basic locks and holds are the bread and butter of law enforcement.
That said, even my friend admits that he doesn%26#039;t get to use the techniques often. Cops don%26#039;t wade into a brawl if they can help it, they call for backup and gain numerical and tactical superiority (the smart thing of course). They are more likely to use a dogpile than a mount for instance.
Of course, lets face it. Who uses krav or jujitsu in normal life anyway? We train because we like to train, and for that one off moment when we might have to use it. Many will go their whole life without having to use it, just as cops can go their whole career and never fire their gun at anyone. That doesn%26#039;t stop them from going to the range, and it shouldn%26#039;t stop you from training however you want. You%26#039;ll have a leg up on many other officers, and might be able to teach them a thing or two that could help them. Stick with whichever (or both) that you enjoy.|||Both...simple answer but I would recommend that you take Police Defense Tactical training such as Close Quarter%26#039;s Combatives, Last Resort Tactics and Pressure Point Control Tactics since most police officers will tell you that you need specific training and not some generalized program like Krav Maga.|||As an officer, when will you have to do hand to hand combat? When some one comes at you right? And when a guy tries to fight an officer, what does he typically do? Tries to tackle him, get him down and run. So, If you were to learn Judo, you could throw attackers off and on their head, then use jiu jitsu, or krav maga either or to subdue him.|||You already know a hell of a lot more than the average cop. They have guns, back up and mace. As a generalization the average cop doesn%26#039;t know much about hand to hand combat, and a lot of chokes are prohibited for use by law enforcement, so you should be good.|||Continue with both if that works for you.
Although as others have said jiu-jitsu re: restraining techniques may be more suited to your job.
Best wishes :)***|||jujutsu its more realistic
as a police officer you cannt do eye gouges, and beat them into submision, you need to follow the letter of the law|||I tink krav maga is to brutal to use as i cop , jujitsu is great and maybe
some aikido,judo.|||try judo, aikido, or sambo|||Do Baptists attack or defend?
Jujitsu Gi Uniform - What size should I get?
How do I tell what size Jujitsu Gi Uniform to buy? i%26#039;m in need of one asap.
I%26#039;m 6%26#039;2, 140lbs. if that helps any.|||I THINK YOU SHOULD BE SOME WHERE IN THIS RANGE-
5%26#039; 7%26quot; to 5%26#039; 9%26quot; 160 to 185 lbs 5 jacket %26amp; 4 pants
5%26#039; 10%26quot; to 6%26#039; 0%26quot; 156 to 180 lbs (average build) 5
5%26#039; 10%26quot; to 6%26#039; 0%26quot; 181 to 200 lbs (muscular build) 6 jacket %26amp; 5 pants
6%26#039; 1%26quot; to 6%26#039; 3%26quot; 175 to 215 lbs 6
HOPE THIS HELPS.
|||I%26#039;d get the 7 just to be safe on size because by what you said you%26#039;re probably really tall and skinny. My friend is 6%26#039;1 and is a 6 or a 7. but in case you want it a little big so it may be more comfortable go with a 7. But brand also makes a difference in size if you want to try on a gi before you order it find a local dojo and ask if you could try one of the uniforms on to find out what size you are. I%26#039;m normally pretty good at guessing sizes but thats if I see how a person is built not just weight and height.
Good Luck with your Juijitsu. |||Are you ordering online? If you are just check out the size charts. If you%26#039;re going to buy it at a store, just go try some out and see what fits you the best. I heard Chinese Uniforms are oddly small. If you%26#039;re shirt is XXL in America, their%26#039;s is XXXXXL. No lie.
I%26#039;m 6%26#039;2, 140lbs. if that helps any.|||I THINK YOU SHOULD BE SOME WHERE IN THIS RANGE-
5%26#039; 7%26quot; to 5%26#039; 9%26quot; 160 to 185 lbs 5 jacket %26amp; 4 pants
5%26#039; 10%26quot; to 6%26#039; 0%26quot; 156 to 180 lbs (average build) 5
5%26#039; 10%26quot; to 6%26#039; 0%26quot; 181 to 200 lbs (muscular build) 6 jacket %26amp; 5 pants
6%26#039; 1%26quot; to 6%26#039; 3%26quot; 175 to 215 lbs 6
HOPE THIS HELPS.
|||I%26#039;d get the 7 just to be safe on size because by what you said you%26#039;re probably really tall and skinny. My friend is 6%26#039;1 and is a 6 or a 7. but in case you want it a little big so it may be more comfortable go with a 7. But brand also makes a difference in size if you want to try on a gi before you order it find a local dojo and ask if you could try one of the uniforms on to find out what size you are. I%26#039;m normally pretty good at guessing sizes but thats if I see how a person is built not just weight and height.
Good Luck with your Juijitsu. |||Are you ordering online? If you are just check out the size charts. If you%26#039;re going to buy it at a store, just go try some out and see what fits you the best. I heard Chinese Uniforms are oddly small. If you%26#039;re shirt is XXL in America, their%26#039;s is XXXXXL. No lie.
Will Brazilian Jujitsu help me with Wrestling?
In what ways? I don%26#039;t have access for Judo, So BJJ was the best I could do.
Is BJJ good to help my wrestling skills?
Thanks.|||I%26#039;m not familiar with much of wrestling but from what I%26#039;ve heard I think that Jui Jitsu will in fact help greatly. If I understood wrestling.
Basically in Jui Jitsu you do Locks, Chokes, Holds, and other subs. If any of those are in wrestling then I suggest you train with bjj. Also more importantly in bjj it%26#039;s about the smaller guy beating the bigger guy by getting the smarter position. It%26#039;s not all about strength. Which is good so that most physical differences won%26#039;t hold you back as long as you practice hard and know what you%26#039;re doing|||Jujitsu is jujitsu. It%26#039;s Japanese. Are you thinking of the Brasilian form of dance/fighting? It%26#039;s called capoeira. (ka po eh rah) Capoeira is a style of fighting created by black slaves in Brasil. They would practice it in slow motion so that it appeared to be a form of dance. This way they were safe from punishment from their owners for studying a martial art.
Integrating capoeira with exercises would certainly help with your wrestling . Capoeira demands flexibility and smoothness of motion as well as balance and timing.|||Absoultely! Judo is more about throws. BJJ is ground work and submissions. And the pay off is that your wrestling will help you with learning BJJ. Those two styles will feed each other.|||YES, JUJITSU IN GENERAL IS THE ART OF SUMBMISSION FIGHTING, LIKE AN ART OF PHYSCIAL ADVANTAGE
Is BJJ good to help my wrestling skills?
Thanks.|||I%26#039;m not familiar with much of wrestling but from what I%26#039;ve heard I think that Jui Jitsu will in fact help greatly. If I understood wrestling.
Basically in Jui Jitsu you do Locks, Chokes, Holds, and other subs. If any of those are in wrestling then I suggest you train with bjj. Also more importantly in bjj it%26#039;s about the smaller guy beating the bigger guy by getting the smarter position. It%26#039;s not all about strength. Which is good so that most physical differences won%26#039;t hold you back as long as you practice hard and know what you%26#039;re doing|||Jujitsu is jujitsu. It%26#039;s Japanese. Are you thinking of the Brasilian form of dance/fighting? It%26#039;s called capoeira. (ka po eh rah) Capoeira is a style of fighting created by black slaves in Brasil. They would practice it in slow motion so that it appeared to be a form of dance. This way they were safe from punishment from their owners for studying a martial art.
Integrating capoeira with exercises would certainly help with your wrestling . Capoeira demands flexibility and smoothness of motion as well as balance and timing.|||Absoultely! Judo is more about throws. BJJ is ground work and submissions. And the pay off is that your wrestling will help you with learning BJJ. Those two styles will feed each other.|||YES, JUJITSU IN GENERAL IS THE ART OF SUMBMISSION FIGHTING, LIKE AN ART OF PHYSCIAL ADVANTAGE
Whats the difference between brazilian jujitsu and jujitsu?
jiujitsu is an martial art that began in japan by a man called jigoro kano. he is considered to be the father of jiujitsu and judo. he taught the art to a man named mitsuya maeda who went to brazil and met a man named gastao gracie who helped him establish it in brazil. he then taught the art to his sons: carlos gracie and helio gracie. it was helio that modified the style to be adaptable to real life brazilian streetfighting situations. he also incorporated more chokes and joint locks that would work in those situations as well. that is the difference between the two.|||Too long to explain properly. Read this thread instead.
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread...|||There%26#039;s a direct emphasis on ground grappling that is much more prominant in Brazilian than it is in Japanese. In Japanese, the emphasis is less on groundwork, and more so on manipulation of your enemy as opposed to dropping him, locking him, and choking him out as in Brazilian. If you%26#039;re looking for a visual example, you can compare the grappling of what you see in Brazilian with this -
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jlfRdP9h6yY|||Brazilian Jujutsu is from Brazil...and the other is not!|||JuJitsu is from Japan originally but a group of Brazilians trained in Japan some time ago and brought the knowledge they learned in Japan back to Brazil and adapted it into their own unique fighting style which is known today as Brazilian JuJitsu.
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread...|||There%26#039;s a direct emphasis on ground grappling that is much more prominant in Brazilian than it is in Japanese. In Japanese, the emphasis is less on groundwork, and more so on manipulation of your enemy as opposed to dropping him, locking him, and choking him out as in Brazilian. If you%26#039;re looking for a visual example, you can compare the grappling of what you see in Brazilian with this -
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jlfRdP9h6yY|||Brazilian Jujutsu is from Brazil...and the other is not!|||JuJitsu is from Japan originally but a group of Brazilians trained in Japan some time ago and brought the knowledge they learned in Japan back to Brazil and adapted it into their own unique fighting style which is known today as Brazilian JuJitsu.
Whats the difference between jujitsu and brizilian jujitsu?
A short history lesson. Jiu Jitsu is an ancient style of grappling, that samurai used on the battle fields. From Jiu Jitsu came the martial art Judo in the late 1800%26#039;s, which is an olympic sport today. A Japanese immigrant taught some Gracies Judo in the 1900%26#039;s, and they had a fondness for the ne waza techniques, and put their own style and ideologies on the techniques, and started calling it Gracie Jiu Jitsu, more commonly known as Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
As far as techniques, sport and training methods go. BJJ and Jiu Jitsu are alot different. They use similar techniques like Juji Gatami(arm bar) Udi Garami(kimura) Sankaku Jime(triangle choke) etc. etc. But, they have different ways of setting up and training all together. BJJ now days is more of a sport, and they play alot of strategy in club. All in all, BJJ has alot more in common with the sport of Judo then the ancient art of Jiu Jitsu, although there is a correlation between the two.|||BJJ is more like Judo. Without going into a long and debating issue on history, Japanese jujitsu is worlds apart from BJJ but bjj and judo are more related than jjj, and bjj. The more I train in bjj the more relation I see with judo than with jap. jj. I, as well, train in Aikido and in class is a person who trained in Jap. jj and the styles are worlds apart. As well I also train with a guy who did Judo and with seeing and talking I see more relation there. If you watch bjj, judo and jap. jj enough you can see which are closer relation.|||forget the rest of the answers here is the right answer:
Jiu Jutsu:
Ancient Japanese martial art that encompasses throwing, joint locks, striking, and weapons training.
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu:
In the mid-1920%26#039;s, Carlos Gracie opened the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Academy in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. He taught the skills he learned from Japanese Judo master Esai Maeda. The skills were later modified to use less strength and to be more effective against larger opponents. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu%26#039;s reputation spread due to the success of its practitioners in no holds barred contests.|||Japanese Jujutsu focuses more on self-defense, striking, and standing grappling, especially Goshin Jujitsu. Jujutsu is the Gentle Art, and was invented is various ryus, or styles, in feudal Japan, and was perfected in the 1600%26#039;s by the samurai. Jujutsu yielded the arts of Judo, Aikido, Hapkido, since Aikijujutsu was the most selective and private Ryu, and all of the Japanese styles of karate.
Judo, the sportive version of Japanese Jujutsu, is a style of submission wrestling, and is thought to be the best throwing art. Judo has over 67 throws, plus reaps/ trips, takedowns, and various breakfalling techniques to land safely after being thrown. Judo also has the best, meaning fastest chokes, with some knocking people out in as little as three seconds. And lastly, Judo contains wrestling techniques, mat holds or pins, and a lot of arm and shoulder locks, or armbars. Judo is now considered to be the most modern version of Japanese Jujutsu.
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, considered to be the most effective groundfighting art ever, focuses almost exclusively on groundfighting. Jiu-Jitsu comes from Judo, and was adapted by Helio Gracie to be more effective for weaker and smaller people, such as himself, as many Judo throws require either flawless technique, or else a good bit of strength. Jiu-Jitsu has the most devastating arsenal of chokes and joint-locks, and the best grappling positioning techniques. We like to say in the art, %26quot;if there%26#039;s a joint, we can break it.%26quot; Jiu-Jitsu has self-defense applications, but don%26#039;t be fooled, it started out as a sport. Just about all of the BJJ techniques are found in Judo, and vice versa,
So now that you know, let%26#039;s look at the three arts. Goshin Jujitsu, a legitimate Japanese, albeit modern style that includes strikes from Muay Thai, Judo throws, Jujutsu%26#039;s groundfighting, plus weapon defense techniques, is best for self-defense. Judo has the greatest arsenal of throws, many of which are liable to paralyze someone if done on concrete, plus the fastest chokes of any martial arts style. Any given Judo is probably better on the ground compared to any other fighter, except a against a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu person. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is unparalleled in ground fighting, has the best array of joint-locks, and also contains many of Judo%26#039;s chokes.|||techiniques used and it was devolped in brazil as where jujitsu developed in japan and around the world
As far as techniques, sport and training methods go. BJJ and Jiu Jitsu are alot different. They use similar techniques like Juji Gatami(arm bar) Udi Garami(kimura) Sankaku Jime(triangle choke) etc. etc. But, they have different ways of setting up and training all together. BJJ now days is more of a sport, and they play alot of strategy in club. All in all, BJJ has alot more in common with the sport of Judo then the ancient art of Jiu Jitsu, although there is a correlation between the two.|||BJJ is more like Judo. Without going into a long and debating issue on history, Japanese jujitsu is worlds apart from BJJ but bjj and judo are more related than jjj, and bjj. The more I train in bjj the more relation I see with judo than with jap. jj. I, as well, train in Aikido and in class is a person who trained in Jap. jj and the styles are worlds apart. As well I also train with a guy who did Judo and with seeing and talking I see more relation there. If you watch bjj, judo and jap. jj enough you can see which are closer relation.|||forget the rest of the answers here is the right answer:
Jiu Jutsu:
Ancient Japanese martial art that encompasses throwing, joint locks, striking, and weapons training.
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu:
In the mid-1920%26#039;s, Carlos Gracie opened the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Academy in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. He taught the skills he learned from Japanese Judo master Esai Maeda. The skills were later modified to use less strength and to be more effective against larger opponents. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu%26#039;s reputation spread due to the success of its practitioners in no holds barred contests.|||Japanese Jujutsu focuses more on self-defense, striking, and standing grappling, especially Goshin Jujitsu. Jujutsu is the Gentle Art, and was invented is various ryus, or styles, in feudal Japan, and was perfected in the 1600%26#039;s by the samurai. Jujutsu yielded the arts of Judo, Aikido, Hapkido, since Aikijujutsu was the most selective and private Ryu, and all of the Japanese styles of karate.
Judo, the sportive version of Japanese Jujutsu, is a style of submission wrestling, and is thought to be the best throwing art. Judo has over 67 throws, plus reaps/ trips, takedowns, and various breakfalling techniques to land safely after being thrown. Judo also has the best, meaning fastest chokes, with some knocking people out in as little as three seconds. And lastly, Judo contains wrestling techniques, mat holds or pins, and a lot of arm and shoulder locks, or armbars. Judo is now considered to be the most modern version of Japanese Jujutsu.
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, considered to be the most effective groundfighting art ever, focuses almost exclusively on groundfighting. Jiu-Jitsu comes from Judo, and was adapted by Helio Gracie to be more effective for weaker and smaller people, such as himself, as many Judo throws require either flawless technique, or else a good bit of strength. Jiu-Jitsu has the most devastating arsenal of chokes and joint-locks, and the best grappling positioning techniques. We like to say in the art, %26quot;if there%26#039;s a joint, we can break it.%26quot; Jiu-Jitsu has self-defense applications, but don%26#039;t be fooled, it started out as a sport. Just about all of the BJJ techniques are found in Judo, and vice versa,
So now that you know, let%26#039;s look at the three arts. Goshin Jujitsu, a legitimate Japanese, albeit modern style that includes strikes from Muay Thai, Judo throws, Jujutsu%26#039;s groundfighting, plus weapon defense techniques, is best for self-defense. Judo has the greatest arsenal of throws, many of which are liable to paralyze someone if done on concrete, plus the fastest chokes of any martial arts style. Any given Judo is probably better on the ground compared to any other fighter, except a against a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu person. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is unparalleled in ground fighting, has the best array of joint-locks, and also contains many of Judo%26#039;s chokes.|||techiniques used and it was devolped in brazil as where jujitsu developed in japan and around the world
Where can i meet a brazillian jujitsu guy?
visit me.
I live with 3 brazilians that all know BJJ|||Look in your local phone book and call and ask what time classes are held.Go by and watch the guys training.
I am sure there will be some young handsome students in class so quick get your phone book.
Good luck!|||Brazil? Long term relationship or %26quot;just friends%26quot;?|||If you want to train you should say where you are from and maby someone will direct you to a good place, or you can just do a search
If you are asking this implying you want a GUY, then i would assume you have really low self esteem that you need to start a topic like this so you can get some imature boys comments to make yourself feel better and probably tell you that you need to get out more|||ah you mean a balckbelt to trian with or just soemsomeone studies it I study BJJ|||Your best bet would be at a martial arts academy that teaches brazilian jujitsu.
Brazilians usually train consistently (they have a never say die attitude), so you bet you%26#039;ll find them at a jiu jiutsu academy.|||Take japenese jujitsu.|||...brazil...|||see this website jiu-jitsu.net may be it helps|||like a teacher? Look it up online, call information, ask around. A guy who does brazilian jujitsu? Go to competitions, take a class at a martial arts school that specializes in Brazilian Jujitsu, hang around the school and talk to people.
I live with 3 brazilians that all know BJJ|||Look in your local phone book and call and ask what time classes are held.Go by and watch the guys training.
I am sure there will be some young handsome students in class so quick get your phone book.
Good luck!|||Brazil? Long term relationship or %26quot;just friends%26quot;?|||If you want to train you should say where you are from and maby someone will direct you to a good place, or you can just do a search
If you are asking this implying you want a GUY, then i would assume you have really low self esteem that you need to start a topic like this so you can get some imature boys comments to make yourself feel better and probably tell you that you need to get out more|||ah you mean a balckbelt to trian with or just soemsomeone studies it I study BJJ|||Your best bet would be at a martial arts academy that teaches brazilian jujitsu.
Brazilians usually train consistently (they have a never say die attitude), so you bet you%26#039;ll find them at a jiu jiutsu academy.|||Take japenese jujitsu.|||...brazil...|||see this website jiu-jitsu.net may be it helps|||like a teacher? Look it up online, call information, ask around. A guy who does brazilian jujitsu? Go to competitions, take a class at a martial arts school that specializes in Brazilian Jujitsu, hang around the school and talk to people.
Be honest: Is traditional jujitsu bullshido or not?
I know people who have trained in a few other traditional forms and they all eventually turned to MMA. So I%26#039;m considering MMA but it%26#039;s expensive. JJJ only a third of the price and apparently %26#039;is%26#039; MMA accordnig to the JJJ teacher. So how is JJJ compared with MMA?|||ju jitsu was used by the samurai on the field of battle for the best part of 1000 years, and with great succes
the approach of many modern schools can indeed raise plenty of questions. but traditionat ju jitsu is very effective|||I agree that traditional jujitsu is not bullshido and to be honest I think the bullshido guys are the ones who could not hack it in a true system. If all one cares about is fighting they will eventually be defeated and what%26#039;s worse...they may end up dead.
I have studied traditional martial arts non-stop since 1978 and would never change to MMA. I am not impressed nor intimidated by any MMA fighter I have ever met (and yes I have met many of them). They are sportsmen and the fight for money or glory. To me martial arts is not about that kind of weakness...and I would recommend that you just forget about MMA.|||Traditional Jujutsu, in general, is not bullshido. However, there are schools from every style (MMA included) that are craptacular.
JJJ is NOT MMA. MMA is a combat sport, not really a specific martial arts in itself. Perhaps that JJJ sensei doesn%26#039;t have a good grasp of what MMA is or perhaps he%26#039;s full of crap. Either way, if I were you, I%26#039;d take some trial classes at both places to see how I liked them.
Also, in the JJJ place, make sure that they do live training and realistic sparring. If not, you probably won%26#039;t like it, as it won%26#039;t teach you how to fight.
EDIT: Nwohioguy, Bullshido.net has done tons for the martial arts community. To call them hacks is silly. They had the balls to publicly call out so many of the phonies that previously went unchecked. Even better, they insist that people %26#039;put their money where their mouth is%26#039; with the throwdown sparring meetups. Forums like MAP are in desperate need of something like that.|||its funny when people say they%26#039;re not intimidated by mma fighters. i understand what they mean. but i still think the mma fighter would destroy them if the sh*t hit the fan.
japanese jujutsu was invented for fighting too...why do so many people forget that?
the funniest thing though is that 99% of the people who tell you they practice traditional japanese jujutsu have no idea what it is. it%26#039;s alot more than just teaching a standup version of jujutsu. how it is practiced and taught is one of the main defining characteristics of what makes it traditional.
look up koryu jujutsu sometime. or go to youtube and watch videos of daito ryu, hontai yoshin ryu jujutsu etc. and you%26#039;ll realize that your local %26quot;traditional jujutsu%26quot; school is a far cry from what is actually practiced in japan as traditional jujutsu. infact most will tell you...unless you can show and prove a tracable bloodline back to the founder of the system...it%26#039;s not legit koryu japanese jujutsu.
most %26quot;traditional%26quot; jujutsu schools arent traditional at all. they just AREN%26#039;T brazilian jujutsu so they say traditional to make that distinction.
in my humble opinion. no art is bullshido as long as it%26#039;s legit.
even gendai jujutsu (what most people call traditional) is not bullshido..infact it can be very effective. many of the techniques are the same, it is the history, culture and tradition that make them different. but the main difference to me remains the method in which they are taught.
for example...small circle jujutsu is NOT traditional jujutsu. it%26#039;s gendai jujutsu. but is very good.
people say it matters what %26quot;style%26quot; you study. to me this is complete nonsense. as an example..people say kyokushin is the most effective karate style...more effective than goju ryu, or shotokan for example. this is retarded to me.
you make the art effective. the art doesnt make you effective. in short...any art can be effective if you want it to be and train accordingly.|||i am trained in a martial called hapkido which has lot similar locks as jujitsu and the Korean Marine Core is undefeated in Hand to Hand combat and they integrated Hapkido into there system. However people saying JJJ is better than MMA is complete bullshit depends on who u learn from i would rather learn from a competent person that a incompetent person someone who know what the **** they are talking about and actually have fighting/self defense outside the dojo|||JJJ is not MMA. It is a real martial art, not a sport. JJJ is a very effective martial art that I would choose over MMA anytime.
the approach of many modern schools can indeed raise plenty of questions. but traditionat ju jitsu is very effective|||I agree that traditional jujitsu is not bullshido and to be honest I think the bullshido guys are the ones who could not hack it in a true system. If all one cares about is fighting they will eventually be defeated and what%26#039;s worse...they may end up dead.
I have studied traditional martial arts non-stop since 1978 and would never change to MMA. I am not impressed nor intimidated by any MMA fighter I have ever met (and yes I have met many of them). They are sportsmen and the fight for money or glory. To me martial arts is not about that kind of weakness...and I would recommend that you just forget about MMA.|||Traditional Jujutsu, in general, is not bullshido. However, there are schools from every style (MMA included) that are craptacular.
JJJ is NOT MMA. MMA is a combat sport, not really a specific martial arts in itself. Perhaps that JJJ sensei doesn%26#039;t have a good grasp of what MMA is or perhaps he%26#039;s full of crap. Either way, if I were you, I%26#039;d take some trial classes at both places to see how I liked them.
Also, in the JJJ place, make sure that they do live training and realistic sparring. If not, you probably won%26#039;t like it, as it won%26#039;t teach you how to fight.
EDIT: Nwohioguy, Bullshido.net has done tons for the martial arts community. To call them hacks is silly. They had the balls to publicly call out so many of the phonies that previously went unchecked. Even better, they insist that people %26#039;put their money where their mouth is%26#039; with the throwdown sparring meetups. Forums like MAP are in desperate need of something like that.|||its funny when people say they%26#039;re not intimidated by mma fighters. i understand what they mean. but i still think the mma fighter would destroy them if the sh*t hit the fan.
japanese jujutsu was invented for fighting too...why do so many people forget that?
the funniest thing though is that 99% of the people who tell you they practice traditional japanese jujutsu have no idea what it is. it%26#039;s alot more than just teaching a standup version of jujutsu. how it is practiced and taught is one of the main defining characteristics of what makes it traditional.
look up koryu jujutsu sometime. or go to youtube and watch videos of daito ryu, hontai yoshin ryu jujutsu etc. and you%26#039;ll realize that your local %26quot;traditional jujutsu%26quot; school is a far cry from what is actually practiced in japan as traditional jujutsu. infact most will tell you...unless you can show and prove a tracable bloodline back to the founder of the system...it%26#039;s not legit koryu japanese jujutsu.
most %26quot;traditional%26quot; jujutsu schools arent traditional at all. they just AREN%26#039;T brazilian jujutsu so they say traditional to make that distinction.
in my humble opinion. no art is bullshido as long as it%26#039;s legit.
even gendai jujutsu (what most people call traditional) is not bullshido..infact it can be very effective. many of the techniques are the same, it is the history, culture and tradition that make them different. but the main difference to me remains the method in which they are taught.
for example...small circle jujutsu is NOT traditional jujutsu. it%26#039;s gendai jujutsu. but is very good.
people say it matters what %26quot;style%26quot; you study. to me this is complete nonsense. as an example..people say kyokushin is the most effective karate style...more effective than goju ryu, or shotokan for example. this is retarded to me.
you make the art effective. the art doesnt make you effective. in short...any art can be effective if you want it to be and train accordingly.|||i am trained in a martial called hapkido which has lot similar locks as jujitsu and the Korean Marine Core is undefeated in Hand to Hand combat and they integrated Hapkido into there system. However people saying JJJ is better than MMA is complete bullshit depends on who u learn from i would rather learn from a competent person that a incompetent person someone who know what the **** they are talking about and actually have fighting/self defense outside the dojo|||JJJ is not MMA. It is a real martial art, not a sport. JJJ is a very effective martial art that I would choose over MMA anytime.
Which is a more powerful martial art, Shaolin Kung Fu or Jujitsu?
I want to start martial arts but i%26#039;m caught between these two which from what i%26#039;ve always studied about Japanese and Chinese history, are the most powerful martial arts from the country they come from, China= Kung Fu, Japan= Jujitsu. So which is more powerful?|||It is not an easy comparison, however, if you train yourself in Shaolin like the temple disciples do, then in several years there would be no Jujitsu fighter who could take you down. Anyone who thinks that a Jujitsu master could take down a Shaolin Disciple Graduate (not even a Shaolin Master) doesn%26#039;t know anything about Shaolin Kung Fu. Also, just for the record, all korean, vietnamese, japanese, and a few other asian countries%26#039; martial arts all originated in China. China is the original source for almost all asian cultures. Now, having said that, I don%26#039;t mean to say you should totally overlook Jujitsu. Jujitsu is a very powerful art, but, also difficult to grasp. Especially the grappling aspect of it is not very easy to learn and hard to train in by yourself. Shaolin, however, is put together in stages of difficulty: the first forms and techniques are easy to learn and get harder as you progress, but are rarely complicated, even at the higher levels. My personal suggestion would be shaolin, but you might not have a studio nearby to that teaches it. You can learn a lot of shaolin from video, but this is really only successful if you have some previous martial arts experience, so you know how to glean the finer techniques from watching on video. Otherwise go with Jujitsu, because there are generally more Jujitsu schools in America (I don%26#039;t knw where you are) than Shaolin.|||First of all cook c, that was a stupid answer. I would prefer Shaolin kung fu because I love the whole meditation stuff and the art. First of all I think it would be hard to put down a real Shaolin practicioner. I would say none of both is more powerful, if a Shaolin monk ffought a Jujitsu guy and lets say both are at the same level, the chances are 50-50. If the Jujitsu guy takes the Shaolin down guy, its over for the shaolin guy. But if the Shaolin guy performs one of his many deadly techniques on ground wether it is striking or takedown or espacially joint manipulating, the Jujitsu guy is on for some trouble.|||Well before I get started I want to comment on the person above me..
%26quot;It is not an easy comparison, however, if you train yourself in Shaolin like the temple disciples do, then in several years there would be no Jujitsu fighter who could take you down. Anyone who thinks that a Jujitsu master could take down a Shaolin Disciple Graduate (not even a Shaolin Master) doesn%26#039;t know anything about Shaolin Kung Fu%26quot;
I take it you don%26#039;t know much about Shaolin Kung Fu other than what you have read? Where would you think that they practice any kind of take down defense? We share a dojo with a Shaolin Kung Fu school, and those guys can do some incredible feats, they train hard and are damn impressive. However they are easily taken down, (especially with stances that are not great for sprawling a key in take down defense) and in sparring situations they get worked.
Nothing you practice by yourself with no sparring is going to be effective in fighting period.
Shoalin (provided you can find a quality school, and not a wanna be) is great for conditioning, flexibility, balance, and discipline. You will have a strong body, and a strong mind, which can help prepare you over the average joe.
However, without sparring or pressure testing, don%26#039;t be surprised if your techniques aren%26#039;t as effective as you thought when some guy is on top of you pummelling you.
The same really goes for classical Japanese Jujitsu, as many traditional schools do not do a tremendous amount of sparring. (Good quality schools also are hard to find). However their techniques are probably more effective because at some point you practice them on resisting opponents.
Good throwing techniques can be hard to master, but that is the point. You only get good at something through hard work.
However both arts are highly outdated, and have training principles that mystified and westernized.
Neither one is that powerful really.
JJ techniques were done while wearing or envisioned wearing armor. They use weaponry (that no longer is used) and principles developed for when you are armed. (Wrist escapes and the like, developed so that when someone grabbed your sword hand you were able to break away and deliver a strike) Most of their throws are thought of likewise, as though they are done in armor. Very small movements, great looking and seemingly effective. However with never really practicing it against a resisting opponent and finding out what is needed to actually throw someone.
Shaolin despite what some Asianophile nutriders would have you to believe is more spiritually based, than combat based. The movements and exercises are developed to help one better himself physically and spiritually. It spurned off other Kung Fu styles that began to become more combat oriented (against other Kung Fu) but that hasn%26#039;t evolved for a long time.
Then it got mystified and westernized as some mysterious chi ball, %26quot;powerful%26quot; thing. When in fact there is no historic evidence of success in any war, ring, tournament, match, or cage in which Kung Fu reigned supreme. JJ was at least developed and tested in battle, be it ancient battle involving armor and swords, much different then hand to hand fighting today.
This is part of a mentality that a lot of Martial Artist get into Martial Arts for. They believe the hype of a particular style and are afraid to admit it%26#039;s faults, or are duped like so much of the public thinking that Martial Arts are supernatural, or provide some preternatural ability. When in fact, a vast majority of them (especially in the US) aren%26#039;t really that better at actual fighting than the average joe.
So to answer you question with a short concise answer.
I would say JJ, because it%26#039;s derivitives (Judo, BJJ, Aikido, Karate, etc) has spurned way more success in battle, in fighting competetions, etc. Whereas there is no true show of force in any way of Shaolin or any of it%26#039;s derivitives (the 5 bajillion styles of Kung Fu and Chinese Martial Arts) in any competetion, on any battle field, or in any fighting circle.
However one could argue that one is more spiritually sound and fit with Kung Fu, thereby making it more powerful, since it improves yourself and not necessarily concentrated on your fighting ability.
However I would argue all Martial Arts do that regardless, as does any time devoted to any physical activity in which you strive to succeed.
Sorry for the book, that is my take on things.
In response to MJR:
Seriously? You think Kung Fu is the only people who are able to rake eyes and jab throats? Do you have any idea what that actual effectiveness of that is? How many eyes have you raked or throats have you jabbed? Or the average Kung Fu practioner for that matter? Without jabbing throats and eyes on the regular against people who aren%26#039;t letting you do so, you really are no better at it than anyone else.
Jujitsu (Japanese, not BJJ) has very few if any tournaments, whereas some of it%26#039;s derivitives have plenty. Just for the record, I believe JJ to be fairly ineffective as it has not evolved, whereas BJJ, Judo, Karate, etc, all have evolved tremendously. (Key to any successful art)
Anyone can rake eyes or jab throats, Kung Fu doesn%26#039;t make you more adept at it. The simple fact is on the street those moves will be ineffective and get you killed, and are hardly the fight stoppers people think them to be. Kicking shins and breaking them? So you are going to attack one of the largest, strongest, and thickest bones in your body, with the small bones in your foot and expect that the shin will break? God help you if you try to break the shin of damn near any Karateka who spends time doing body hardening and bone conditioning.
This is a myth that many arts try to claim, that they are too deadly on the street, too deadly to spar for fear of injury. However never practicing on any resisting opponent makes your technique worthless.
That is like someone who wants to be a race car driver never stepping behind the wheel. He is practicing forms of driving, working pedals and steering in the air, learning from an art that was developed for horse and buggy racing, and expecting that he is going to jump in a race car, and win a race. After all, the speeds he plans to drive at are too deadly on the road.
However someone who wants to race, jumps in a car and with some safety features, limited speeds, etc. Learns how others react, how the car handles under speed, etc. He will have a much better understanding than someone who has never even driven before, but mimics driving diligently.
That is just my take on the matter. I wouldn%26#039;t place too much on what your own ideas about the origins of arts are. Japan was a very lawless country and arts were developed under constant warring with neighboring Shogunates and the like.
That is not to say China didn%26#039;t have it%26#039;s fair share of conflict, but comparing a peaceful era of Japan to an area of conflict with China amongst the peasantry are two different things.
Take it for what it is worth, but without sparring and hard contact, and training during adrenaline based situations such as matches, tournaments, fights. You won%26#039;t truly have a technique in your arsenal or know how it works, on what body types it works, and the best way for you to employ it is, because you have done over and over against people trying to stop you from doing it.
Whole other conversation.
I invite you to check out the forums at www.bullshido.com, and have some discussion with various Martial Artists throughout the world.
Again, sorry for the book.|||It depends on what you want. If you want to win tournaments, go with Jiu-jistu. If you want something that will keep you safe on the street, go with Kung-fu.
The reason for this is historical. Japan, the primogenitor of Jiu-Jitsu, has always been a homogenic, relatively peaceful society with little crime. Therefor their martial arts are focused less on pragmatic values and more on glory. Karate and Jiu-Jitsu are unique among the arts for being ritualized, and being easily adapted for use in competitions, because idle samurai (especially during the Tokugawa era) were continually testing themselves, and they needed to do so in a means that maximized intensity and minimalized injury.
China, however, is much more heterogeneous. Don%26#039;t get into the whole %26#039;slanty eyes%26#039; racism; China is as varied as any western country, and historically was always plagued by bandits and criminals and invaders. The Chinese learned Kung-fu to preserve their lives. Everytime a Chinese man took to the road, he faced the threat of highwaymen or bandits. Or the mongols were raiding over the hill, your dedication to Kung-fu was the determining whether you lived or died.
This is why there is only one rules set for Jiu-Jistu, but well over 300 styles of Kung-fu; the Japanese had enough time to write down the rules and make sure everyone was following them. In the tournament ring, or sparring, where there are boundaries, and rules against injury, jiu-jitsu fighters are in their zone. This is why Kung-fu fighters historically do terribly in tournaments. On the street, the Jiu-jistu fighter would be out of his zone, especially if the Kung-fu figher just raked his eye, or struck his shin and broke it, or jabbed him in the throat. It%26#039;s dirty and underhanded, but if you are trying to preserve your life, then the only rule is to win.
So to say which one is more %26#039;powerful%26#039; is deceptive, because it depends on what you want. If you want to dominate in tournaments, take Mixed Martial Arts. If you want something that you can use in a crowded bar, or against an intruder in your house, take Kung-fu.|||powerful in which way?
If you mean who would win in a one on one fight, the Jujitsu practicioner would win.
If you are looking for grace and appearance in an art, then go with the Shaolin.|||More powerful would depend on what your definiton of power is. With weapons, such as numchuk and staff, I would say Kung Fu, plus its a well rounded martial art which incorporates lots of kicks, puches and blocking. Jujitsu is from what I%26#039;ve seen excellent for holds, breaking out of holds and good for closer quarter fighting.
So either one would be good, more important is finding a school where the instructor is good and you%26#039;re comfortable with. Because if you don%26#039;t like the school you won%26#039;t want to continue regardless of the style.|||They both are very powerful... I would say that Shaolin is more varied though and you could practice just that form all of your life and still never master everything.
Also Shaolin has elements of speed and power plus deflection and using the opponents energy against them so I feel that you would get the best of both worlds as well as learning a system that incorporates it%26#039;s strength training into the style and teaches cool flips and kicks to try and impress your friends however they most likely won%26#039;t be impressed but it%26#039;s still fun none the less lol.
Personally I do Wing Chun which is very powerful in a soft way.|||hey! There are lots of diffrent styles under the term martial arts for example: Judo, Tae kwon do, boxing, javelin, wrestling, fencing, kickboxing and jiu-jitsu. Matrial art help you with combat, skills, fitness, self defense, self-cultivation (meditation), mental decipline, character development and building self-confedence. Martial art is the testing of forms or sparring. Kung-Fu train both internal and external. External training includes the hands, the eyes, the body and stances. Internal training includes the heart, the mind, the spirit and strength. Jujitsu emphasizes throws, locks, and striking and defensive techniques. It is a external style.
I am doing karate in other words a sort of martial arts. I%26#039;m part of shukokai. It depends on what you are into. . . If you just want to fight you should try Jujitsu. . .If you want to fight and learn more about styles and yourself you should try Kung Fu . . . If you wanna do martial arts you should try all styles and find the one that you like best. Good luck!!!|||Any Jujitsu fighter would destroy those Shaolin Kung Fu Sissy%26#039;s. Wing Chun is for girls, by the way, it was designed for girls.
%26quot;It is not an easy comparison, however, if you train yourself in Shaolin like the temple disciples do, then in several years there would be no Jujitsu fighter who could take you down. Anyone who thinks that a Jujitsu master could take down a Shaolin Disciple Graduate (not even a Shaolin Master) doesn%26#039;t know anything about Shaolin Kung Fu%26quot;
I take it you don%26#039;t know much about Shaolin Kung Fu other than what you have read? Where would you think that they practice any kind of take down defense? We share a dojo with a Shaolin Kung Fu school, and those guys can do some incredible feats, they train hard and are damn impressive. However they are easily taken down, (especially with stances that are not great for sprawling a key in take down defense) and in sparring situations they get worked.
Nothing you practice by yourself with no sparring is going to be effective in fighting period.
Shoalin (provided you can find a quality school, and not a wanna be) is great for conditioning, flexibility, balance, and discipline. You will have a strong body, and a strong mind, which can help prepare you over the average joe.
However, without sparring or pressure testing, don%26#039;t be surprised if your techniques aren%26#039;t as effective as you thought when some guy is on top of you pummelling you.
The same really goes for classical Japanese Jujitsu, as many traditional schools do not do a tremendous amount of sparring. (Good quality schools also are hard to find). However their techniques are probably more effective because at some point you practice them on resisting opponents.
Good throwing techniques can be hard to master, but that is the point. You only get good at something through hard work.
However both arts are highly outdated, and have training principles that mystified and westernized.
Neither one is that powerful really.
JJ techniques were done while wearing or envisioned wearing armor. They use weaponry (that no longer is used) and principles developed for when you are armed. (Wrist escapes and the like, developed so that when someone grabbed your sword hand you were able to break away and deliver a strike) Most of their throws are thought of likewise, as though they are done in armor. Very small movements, great looking and seemingly effective. However with never really practicing it against a resisting opponent and finding out what is needed to actually throw someone.
Shaolin despite what some Asianophile nutriders would have you to believe is more spiritually based, than combat based. The movements and exercises are developed to help one better himself physically and spiritually. It spurned off other Kung Fu styles that began to become more combat oriented (against other Kung Fu) but that hasn%26#039;t evolved for a long time.
Then it got mystified and westernized as some mysterious chi ball, %26quot;powerful%26quot; thing. When in fact there is no historic evidence of success in any war, ring, tournament, match, or cage in which Kung Fu reigned supreme. JJ was at least developed and tested in battle, be it ancient battle involving armor and swords, much different then hand to hand fighting today.
This is part of a mentality that a lot of Martial Artist get into Martial Arts for. They believe the hype of a particular style and are afraid to admit it%26#039;s faults, or are duped like so much of the public thinking that Martial Arts are supernatural, or provide some preternatural ability. When in fact, a vast majority of them (especially in the US) aren%26#039;t really that better at actual fighting than the average joe.
So to answer you question with a short concise answer.
I would say JJ, because it%26#039;s derivitives (Judo, BJJ, Aikido, Karate, etc) has spurned way more success in battle, in fighting competetions, etc. Whereas there is no true show of force in any way of Shaolin or any of it%26#039;s derivitives (the 5 bajillion styles of Kung Fu and Chinese Martial Arts) in any competetion, on any battle field, or in any fighting circle.
However one could argue that one is more spiritually sound and fit with Kung Fu, thereby making it more powerful, since it improves yourself and not necessarily concentrated on your fighting ability.
However I would argue all Martial Arts do that regardless, as does any time devoted to any physical activity in which you strive to succeed.
Sorry for the book, that is my take on things.
In response to MJR:
Seriously? You think Kung Fu is the only people who are able to rake eyes and jab throats? Do you have any idea what that actual effectiveness of that is? How many eyes have you raked or throats have you jabbed? Or the average Kung Fu practioner for that matter? Without jabbing throats and eyes on the regular against people who aren%26#039;t letting you do so, you really are no better at it than anyone else.
Jujitsu (Japanese, not BJJ) has very few if any tournaments, whereas some of it%26#039;s derivitives have plenty. Just for the record, I believe JJ to be fairly ineffective as it has not evolved, whereas BJJ, Judo, Karate, etc, all have evolved tremendously. (Key to any successful art)
Anyone can rake eyes or jab throats, Kung Fu doesn%26#039;t make you more adept at it. The simple fact is on the street those moves will be ineffective and get you killed, and are hardly the fight stoppers people think them to be. Kicking shins and breaking them? So you are going to attack one of the largest, strongest, and thickest bones in your body, with the small bones in your foot and expect that the shin will break? God help you if you try to break the shin of damn near any Karateka who spends time doing body hardening and bone conditioning.
This is a myth that many arts try to claim, that they are too deadly on the street, too deadly to spar for fear of injury. However never practicing on any resisting opponent makes your technique worthless.
That is like someone who wants to be a race car driver never stepping behind the wheel. He is practicing forms of driving, working pedals and steering in the air, learning from an art that was developed for horse and buggy racing, and expecting that he is going to jump in a race car, and win a race. After all, the speeds he plans to drive at are too deadly on the road.
However someone who wants to race, jumps in a car and with some safety features, limited speeds, etc. Learns how others react, how the car handles under speed, etc. He will have a much better understanding than someone who has never even driven before, but mimics driving diligently.
That is just my take on the matter. I wouldn%26#039;t place too much on what your own ideas about the origins of arts are. Japan was a very lawless country and arts were developed under constant warring with neighboring Shogunates and the like.
That is not to say China didn%26#039;t have it%26#039;s fair share of conflict, but comparing a peaceful era of Japan to an area of conflict with China amongst the peasantry are two different things.
Take it for what it is worth, but without sparring and hard contact, and training during adrenaline based situations such as matches, tournaments, fights. You won%26#039;t truly have a technique in your arsenal or know how it works, on what body types it works, and the best way for you to employ it is, because you have done over and over against people trying to stop you from doing it.
Whole other conversation.
I invite you to check out the forums at www.bullshido.com, and have some discussion with various Martial Artists throughout the world.
Again, sorry for the book.|||It depends on what you want. If you want to win tournaments, go with Jiu-jistu. If you want something that will keep you safe on the street, go with Kung-fu.
The reason for this is historical. Japan, the primogenitor of Jiu-Jitsu, has always been a homogenic, relatively peaceful society with little crime. Therefor their martial arts are focused less on pragmatic values and more on glory. Karate and Jiu-Jitsu are unique among the arts for being ritualized, and being easily adapted for use in competitions, because idle samurai (especially during the Tokugawa era) were continually testing themselves, and they needed to do so in a means that maximized intensity and minimalized injury.
China, however, is much more heterogeneous. Don%26#039;t get into the whole %26#039;slanty eyes%26#039; racism; China is as varied as any western country, and historically was always plagued by bandits and criminals and invaders. The Chinese learned Kung-fu to preserve their lives. Everytime a Chinese man took to the road, he faced the threat of highwaymen or bandits. Or the mongols were raiding over the hill, your dedication to Kung-fu was the determining whether you lived or died.
This is why there is only one rules set for Jiu-Jistu, but well over 300 styles of Kung-fu; the Japanese had enough time to write down the rules and make sure everyone was following them. In the tournament ring, or sparring, where there are boundaries, and rules against injury, jiu-jitsu fighters are in their zone. This is why Kung-fu fighters historically do terribly in tournaments. On the street, the Jiu-jistu fighter would be out of his zone, especially if the Kung-fu figher just raked his eye, or struck his shin and broke it, or jabbed him in the throat. It%26#039;s dirty and underhanded, but if you are trying to preserve your life, then the only rule is to win.
So to say which one is more %26#039;powerful%26#039; is deceptive, because it depends on what you want. If you want to dominate in tournaments, take Mixed Martial Arts. If you want something that you can use in a crowded bar, or against an intruder in your house, take Kung-fu.|||powerful in which way?
If you mean who would win in a one on one fight, the Jujitsu practicioner would win.
If you are looking for grace and appearance in an art, then go with the Shaolin.|||More powerful would depend on what your definiton of power is. With weapons, such as numchuk and staff, I would say Kung Fu, plus its a well rounded martial art which incorporates lots of kicks, puches and blocking. Jujitsu is from what I%26#039;ve seen excellent for holds, breaking out of holds and good for closer quarter fighting.
So either one would be good, more important is finding a school where the instructor is good and you%26#039;re comfortable with. Because if you don%26#039;t like the school you won%26#039;t want to continue regardless of the style.|||They both are very powerful... I would say that Shaolin is more varied though and you could practice just that form all of your life and still never master everything.
Also Shaolin has elements of speed and power plus deflection and using the opponents energy against them so I feel that you would get the best of both worlds as well as learning a system that incorporates it%26#039;s strength training into the style and teaches cool flips and kicks to try and impress your friends however they most likely won%26#039;t be impressed but it%26#039;s still fun none the less lol.
Personally I do Wing Chun which is very powerful in a soft way.|||hey! There are lots of diffrent styles under the term martial arts for example: Judo, Tae kwon do, boxing, javelin, wrestling, fencing, kickboxing and jiu-jitsu. Matrial art help you with combat, skills, fitness, self defense, self-cultivation (meditation), mental decipline, character development and building self-confedence. Martial art is the testing of forms or sparring. Kung-Fu train both internal and external. External training includes the hands, the eyes, the body and stances. Internal training includes the heart, the mind, the spirit and strength. Jujitsu emphasizes throws, locks, and striking and defensive techniques. It is a external style.
I am doing karate in other words a sort of martial arts. I%26#039;m part of shukokai. It depends on what you are into. . . If you just want to fight you should try Jujitsu. . .If you want to fight and learn more about styles and yourself you should try Kung Fu . . . If you wanna do martial arts you should try all styles and find the one that you like best. Good luck!!!|||Any Jujitsu fighter would destroy those Shaolin Kung Fu Sissy%26#039;s. Wing Chun is for girls, by the way, it was designed for girls.
How many jujitsu practitioners have a red belt in the world and how does a person get a red belt?
Mike Terry has a redbelt. He got it, and a MMA Championship belt that%26#039;s worth a quarter of a million dollars by defeating a corrupt JiuJitsu blackbelt in a street fight. Finding himself in a sleeper hold (standing), Terry ran up a wall, back-flipped over his opponent, then choked the guy out. Immensly impressed, the sole possessor of a redbelt (Joao Moro) passed it on to Mike Terry.|||Ty M - you are wrong about the red belt in the Japanese tradition.
Anyone who is a 10th Dan is a Red Belt. They won%26#039;t necessarily wear one except for during ceremonies and such.
A Red Belt is Honorarily given to a person who is a high caliber practitioner and a humble Warrior.
8th and 9th are also usually honorary ranks. There is no testing for these ranks.
|||Hundreds of thousands have red belts(heheh losers)
and its easy really. just perform certain moves you%26#039;ve been taught and if you impress the masters more than the others then you get your belt, if not, wait another 4 months.|||In Japanese Jujitsu, I don%26#039;t know. In Brazilian Jujitsu I believe there is only one red belt.|||Japanese or Brazilian?
||| If it%26#039;s Brazilian Jiu jitsu then it will be impossible because only
the Gracie brothers (Helio and Carlos) will ever hold the red belt,
even the Gracie son%26#039;s won%26#039;t even recieve it.
If it is traditional Japanese Ju jutsu then Red belt is the second lowest
belt (rank) right after white belt.
Anyone who is a 10th Dan is a Red Belt. They won%26#039;t necessarily wear one except for during ceremonies and such.
A Red Belt is Honorarily given to a person who is a high caliber practitioner and a humble Warrior.
8th and 9th are also usually honorary ranks. There is no testing for these ranks.
|||Hundreds of thousands have red belts(heheh losers)
and its easy really. just perform certain moves you%26#039;ve been taught and if you impress the masters more than the others then you get your belt, if not, wait another 4 months.|||In Japanese Jujitsu, I don%26#039;t know. In Brazilian Jujitsu I believe there is only one red belt.|||Japanese or Brazilian?
||| If it%26#039;s Brazilian Jiu jitsu then it will be impossible because only
the Gracie brothers (Helio and Carlos) will ever hold the red belt,
even the Gracie son%26#039;s won%26#039;t even recieve it.
If it is traditional Japanese Ju jutsu then Red belt is the second lowest
belt (rank) right after white belt.
Are there any certain food I should eat before a jujitsu sports tournament? ?
also, i need lot of energy because a minute is tiring, imagine what it will be like for 5 minutes|||Hi there,
It really depends on what time of day your fight is.
If it%26#039;s early, say 0800 h then your best strategy would be to have a huge feed of carbs the night before, pasta, rice etc. then just a like carb snack when you wake up, a very small bowl of high sugar cereal like nutrigrain if you have it where you are, I think it%26#039;s 32% sugar and 16% protein, it%26#039;s a good ratio for both energy and recovery.
If your fight is midday, have a large breakfast about 0700 h and make it a 50/50 protein/carb mix, eggs %26amp; lean meat with bread and cereal, this sets your body up with a good energy reserve and a recovery source. Again, an hour before the fight a very small bowl of that high sugar cereal.
If the fight is late, say 1800 h, preferably sleep through till lunch time, and apply the above, 50/50 mix for lunch, cereal an hour before.
10 minutes before you enter the ring, down some sugar, jelly beans are the way to go, instant energy source, the above answer was right in regards to softdrink but it%26#039;s a risk I would not take personally as my stomach wouldn%26#039;t approve.
One more thing, your water intake, the day before, drink as much water as you can with a sodium addative, sports drink are ok but i%26#039;m not a huge fan myself, you can just add a pinch of salt to your water, maybe 5g per 2L. This ensures you are properly hydrated the next day.
No coffee, tea, alcohol, or any diuretics for a week prior.
Don%26#039;t get your body reliant on false energy (stimulants)|||If you%26#039;re not used to food with a lot of fibre as your normal average diet, I suggest to avoid it altogether before fights, Fibres in vegetables and some supplement drinks can cause bloated feelings to people who are not used to it.
Sugar is good to have right before a fight, Have Coke (not diet one) but shake it first so that it won%26#039;t be bubbly since again, soda will cause bloated feelin, but if you are the few that really prone to sugar rush, then avoid caffeine and too much sugar as it will give you adverse effect.
I will suggest as a general advice to have lean meat and enough liquid, not too much, but enough so you won%26#039;t get dehydrated.
Most of all, the main stamina won%26#039;t be from the food, but from your training. If you think the food you eat will suddenly make you able to fight for 5 minutes whereas you usually only last 1 minute before you gassed, then you have to hit the treadmill and spar/roll more before you hit any tournament.
Best of luck|||I used to try and carb up the night before and morning of a fight or national tournament. I would have some pasta the night before and a light helping of some pancakes that morning along with some orange juice. Both of these foods carry a lot of carbs and are what marathon runners and other endurance athletes use and the vitamin C will help boost your energy level some. I would also take a banana to eat for lunch sometimes if it was a tournament as the potassium really helps get rid of stiffness and soreness from competing in forms and weapons that morning and then fighting in the afternoon and then competing in the night time finals that night. I would also drink a little extra water the night before and during the day but not to the point of feeling bloated and would limit my intake of sodas, sweets and candy three to five days before and limit my caffeine and coffee the day before and day of.
I would also offer one other training tip and that is that if your matches are five minutes long in competition then you should be doing seven minute matches in your training. This way you will not be running out of gas halfway through it wondering how you are going to get through the second half of it.|||i go with a light breakfast of muesli bars and about 10 mins before i have an energy bar or two. Just no big meals.|||Try eating a banana.|||fruits.
It really depends on what time of day your fight is.
If it%26#039;s early, say 0800 h then your best strategy would be to have a huge feed of carbs the night before, pasta, rice etc. then just a like carb snack when you wake up, a very small bowl of high sugar cereal like nutrigrain if you have it where you are, I think it%26#039;s 32% sugar and 16% protein, it%26#039;s a good ratio for both energy and recovery.
If your fight is midday, have a large breakfast about 0700 h and make it a 50/50 protein/carb mix, eggs %26amp; lean meat with bread and cereal, this sets your body up with a good energy reserve and a recovery source. Again, an hour before the fight a very small bowl of that high sugar cereal.
If the fight is late, say 1800 h, preferably sleep through till lunch time, and apply the above, 50/50 mix for lunch, cereal an hour before.
10 minutes before you enter the ring, down some sugar, jelly beans are the way to go, instant energy source, the above answer was right in regards to softdrink but it%26#039;s a risk I would not take personally as my stomach wouldn%26#039;t approve.
One more thing, your water intake, the day before, drink as much water as you can with a sodium addative, sports drink are ok but i%26#039;m not a huge fan myself, you can just add a pinch of salt to your water, maybe 5g per 2L. This ensures you are properly hydrated the next day.
No coffee, tea, alcohol, or any diuretics for a week prior.
Don%26#039;t get your body reliant on false energy (stimulants)|||If you%26#039;re not used to food with a lot of fibre as your normal average diet, I suggest to avoid it altogether before fights, Fibres in vegetables and some supplement drinks can cause bloated feelings to people who are not used to it.
Sugar is good to have right before a fight, Have Coke (not diet one) but shake it first so that it won%26#039;t be bubbly since again, soda will cause bloated feelin, but if you are the few that really prone to sugar rush, then avoid caffeine and too much sugar as it will give you adverse effect.
I will suggest as a general advice to have lean meat and enough liquid, not too much, but enough so you won%26#039;t get dehydrated.
Most of all, the main stamina won%26#039;t be from the food, but from your training. If you think the food you eat will suddenly make you able to fight for 5 minutes whereas you usually only last 1 minute before you gassed, then you have to hit the treadmill and spar/roll more before you hit any tournament.
Best of luck|||I used to try and carb up the night before and morning of a fight or national tournament. I would have some pasta the night before and a light helping of some pancakes that morning along with some orange juice. Both of these foods carry a lot of carbs and are what marathon runners and other endurance athletes use and the vitamin C will help boost your energy level some. I would also take a banana to eat for lunch sometimes if it was a tournament as the potassium really helps get rid of stiffness and soreness from competing in forms and weapons that morning and then fighting in the afternoon and then competing in the night time finals that night. I would also drink a little extra water the night before and during the day but not to the point of feeling bloated and would limit my intake of sodas, sweets and candy three to five days before and limit my caffeine and coffee the day before and day of.
I would also offer one other training tip and that is that if your matches are five minutes long in competition then you should be doing seven minute matches in your training. This way you will not be running out of gas halfway through it wondering how you are going to get through the second half of it.|||i go with a light breakfast of muesli bars and about 10 mins before i have an energy bar or two. Just no big meals.|||Try eating a banana.|||fruits.
Do they teach throws in brazilian jujitsu as well as submission ?
They teach mainly leg sweeps and wrestling style takedowns, such as a double leg. They don%26#039;t teach Judo style throws. However, even these takedowns are rarely practiced or emphasized.|||of course but its mostly sweeps and wreslting takedowns|||I am not belted in bjj, but my exposure has shown me that throws are minimally emphasized and that you do most of your work once you are already on the ground...no matter how you get there.|||They did if you want to learn it, but mostly you learn to shoot for the legs to take someone down, oh yeah and sweeps and also you learn how to jump onto someone and take them down, I forgot what those are called|||Yes|||No. Not throws but wrestling style takedowns.
Takedowns are not throws.
Please review all the throws in this competition Judo video and see that BJJ does nothing like it:
http://www.judoinfo.com/video3.htm|||Yes.
Takedowns are not throws.
Please review all the throws in this competition Judo video and see that BJJ does nothing like it:
http://www.judoinfo.com/video3.htm|||Yes.
What is the japanese word for the white suit worn in jujitsu?
It is called D艒gi, literally means way-suit. And also Keikogi, training-suit. D艒gi and Keikogi are the common name. Jujutsu suit is Jujutsugi, Judo suit is Judogi. Gi means suit or uniform.|||When you first come along you%26#039;ll be fine in a T-shirt and track-suit ... sooner or later you%26#039;ll want to buy a normal white martial arts suit (called a gi). ...
http://www.umsu.manchester.ac.uk/muaikid...|||Pyjamas
No its a gi|||Keikogi so I%26#039;m told|||It%26#039;s also called a kimono by some people.|||Gi|||People usually call it gi but thats a pretty generic term for clothing. In full it%26#039;d be a keikogi, training clothes. It%26#039;s worn in just about all japanese MA. Some styles have a variation on the basic though.
For example:The aikidogi is made with extra padding on the knees.
This means they have their own name. Generally [Style]gi.|||Gi
http://www.umsu.manchester.ac.uk/muaikid...|||Pyjamas
No its a gi|||Keikogi so I%26#039;m told|||It%26#039;s also called a kimono by some people.|||Gi|||People usually call it gi but thats a pretty generic term for clothing. In full it%26#039;d be a keikogi, training clothes. It%26#039;s worn in just about all japanese MA. Some styles have a variation on the basic though.
For example:The aikidogi is made with extra padding on the knees.
This means they have their own name. Generally [Style]gi.|||Gi
Is jujitsu a good martial art to learn for self defense?
If its about self defense, learn Krav Maga.
Ju Jitsu, most probably you meant Brazilian Jui Jutsu (BJJ), is good for ground fighting, when both of you are on the ground. Most of the martial arts are meant for ring fights, and aren%26#039;t effective self defense fighting forms.
Maybe BJJ came into the limelight because of its success in the MMA, but self-defense is not MMA in a ringed cage with a referee.|||What type of jujitsu are you referring to? It%26#039;s a very broad term. If you mean Brazilian Jiujitsu I train in it myself and it%26#039;s a very defensive and strong art for self-defense so you%26#039;ll definitely learn a good deal from it. But BJJ fort is it%26#039;s ground work and depending on your situation you don%26#039;t always want to go their intentionally. As the other guy just mentioned I would strongly suggest studying a martial art that utilizes striking or a standing grappling style like Judo so you can develop good clinch work if you need. If your in a one on one situation you can use your grappling to lock em up and control em so they can do little damage or if your outnumbered or want to escape MOBILITY is very important (I capped for a reason), and on the ground you have little mobility unless in knee on belly position.
Ok I hope that gave you some good ideas. Just make sure you use your head and approach the situation with an open mind for everything|||No, Jujitsu is not good self defense.
First you should consider what you want to learn, because there%26#039;s a huge difference between fighting and self defense. Fighting is when you are aware of the situation, you know who your opponent and you%26#039;re both ready to fight. Self defense is for when you get jumped, caught off guard, and are otherwise unprepared for the attacker. The attacker chooses the time and place of the fight. So for self defense, you need to learn to be able to react to any situation and give yourself as many advantages as possible, and only knowing how to fight while on the ground with someone (which is all that BJJ is) will only put you at a disadvantage because you never want to go to the ground on the street. You could pull guard, then go to an armbar or whatever you want to do, but you%26#039;d be helpless if the guy%26#039;s friend or accomplice ran up and kicked your head in.
BJJ is growing in popularity because of its use in MMA, but MMA is a sport, not self defense. Taking up MMA won%26#039;t teach you how to deal with multiple attackers, or how to defend against a knife, stick or a gun. BJJ looks great in a cage, because in the cage you can%26#039;t hit someone in the groin, gouge their eyes, bite them, hit the back of their head or use any weapons. Take the rules and regulations of the sport out and BJJ is one of the least effective self-defense systems out there.
You need to find a reality based self-defense system that stresses the fact that in the street there are no rules, no refs, and its almost never fair. Try Krav Maga or Kajukenbo, look %26#039;em up.|||To be 110 % honest, NO. Jits will work wonders as others have stated once you get to the ground (only if you can defend against punches while mounted). A very good portion of BJJ and even regular JJ don%26#039;t translate into street fighting etc. Lacking a striking art, you would get hurt trying to take ownership of someones limb long enough to do damage.
Krav would be a good Self Defense class as well as Aikido (it is the form Steven Segal uses) etc. If you want one of the more popular, I would say look for a MMA center in your area. They will teach both stand up and ground work making you at minimum adequate enough over time to stave off an attack and do enough damage to get away.|||all Martial arts are good for Self-defense and all have limitations. if you are on a one on one going to the ground to do an armbar is effective but what if he has a friend, what will his friend do to you? maybe kick you in the head. look at all arts are strategies all are good and all have limitations|||i would say it is, the moves work but it is only one point of fighting and that is ground fighting and grappling. i think it is a great way of self defense but you should learn a striking self defense too. dont go to the ground unless they take you to the ground. God bless|||One of the best!!! (By the way, Segal uses a form of AIKIJITSU; Akido does NOT lock against the joints like he does!!! Do your homework people, and stop talking about crap you know nothing of!!!!!|||If you mean Japanese Jujutsu then yes, it%26#039;s an excellent form of self defence. Good luck!|||Yes most definitely,
Japanese Jiu jitsu I鈥檇 suggest.
Best wishes :)***
|||for self defense, i suggest you go with krav maga defiantly
Ju Jitsu, most probably you meant Brazilian Jui Jutsu (BJJ), is good for ground fighting, when both of you are on the ground. Most of the martial arts are meant for ring fights, and aren%26#039;t effective self defense fighting forms.
Maybe BJJ came into the limelight because of its success in the MMA, but self-defense is not MMA in a ringed cage with a referee.|||What type of jujitsu are you referring to? It%26#039;s a very broad term. If you mean Brazilian Jiujitsu I train in it myself and it%26#039;s a very defensive and strong art for self-defense so you%26#039;ll definitely learn a good deal from it. But BJJ fort is it%26#039;s ground work and depending on your situation you don%26#039;t always want to go their intentionally. As the other guy just mentioned I would strongly suggest studying a martial art that utilizes striking or a standing grappling style like Judo so you can develop good clinch work if you need. If your in a one on one situation you can use your grappling to lock em up and control em so they can do little damage or if your outnumbered or want to escape MOBILITY is very important (I capped for a reason), and on the ground you have little mobility unless in knee on belly position.
Ok I hope that gave you some good ideas. Just make sure you use your head and approach the situation with an open mind for everything|||No, Jujitsu is not good self defense.
First you should consider what you want to learn, because there%26#039;s a huge difference between fighting and self defense. Fighting is when you are aware of the situation, you know who your opponent and you%26#039;re both ready to fight. Self defense is for when you get jumped, caught off guard, and are otherwise unprepared for the attacker. The attacker chooses the time and place of the fight. So for self defense, you need to learn to be able to react to any situation and give yourself as many advantages as possible, and only knowing how to fight while on the ground with someone (which is all that BJJ is) will only put you at a disadvantage because you never want to go to the ground on the street. You could pull guard, then go to an armbar or whatever you want to do, but you%26#039;d be helpless if the guy%26#039;s friend or accomplice ran up and kicked your head in.
BJJ is growing in popularity because of its use in MMA, but MMA is a sport, not self defense. Taking up MMA won%26#039;t teach you how to deal with multiple attackers, or how to defend against a knife, stick or a gun. BJJ looks great in a cage, because in the cage you can%26#039;t hit someone in the groin, gouge their eyes, bite them, hit the back of their head or use any weapons. Take the rules and regulations of the sport out and BJJ is one of the least effective self-defense systems out there.
You need to find a reality based self-defense system that stresses the fact that in the street there are no rules, no refs, and its almost never fair. Try Krav Maga or Kajukenbo, look %26#039;em up.|||To be 110 % honest, NO. Jits will work wonders as others have stated once you get to the ground (only if you can defend against punches while mounted). A very good portion of BJJ and even regular JJ don%26#039;t translate into street fighting etc. Lacking a striking art, you would get hurt trying to take ownership of someones limb long enough to do damage.
Krav would be a good Self Defense class as well as Aikido (it is the form Steven Segal uses) etc. If you want one of the more popular, I would say look for a MMA center in your area. They will teach both stand up and ground work making you at minimum adequate enough over time to stave off an attack and do enough damage to get away.|||all Martial arts are good for Self-defense and all have limitations. if you are on a one on one going to the ground to do an armbar is effective but what if he has a friend, what will his friend do to you? maybe kick you in the head. look at all arts are strategies all are good and all have limitations|||i would say it is, the moves work but it is only one point of fighting and that is ground fighting and grappling. i think it is a great way of self defense but you should learn a striking self defense too. dont go to the ground unless they take you to the ground. God bless|||One of the best!!! (By the way, Segal uses a form of AIKIJITSU; Akido does NOT lock against the joints like he does!!! Do your homework people, and stop talking about crap you know nothing of!!!!!|||If you mean Japanese Jujutsu then yes, it%26#039;s an excellent form of self defence. Good luck!|||Yes most definitely,
Japanese Jiu jitsu I鈥檇 suggest.
Best wishes :)***
|||for self defense, i suggest you go with krav maga defiantly
Is Brazilian Jujitsu the most effective martial art in terms of hand to hand combat?
In real fighting scenarios (eg. street, military, pub brawl) is there a more effective martial art than BJJ?|||In my view, no style is best. My personal exerience tells me that MMA is, for me the better way of looking at fighting. MMA is not a style it is more of a way of comb. various styles to create one that works best for you. BJJ is, for me, on the top of my list as far as one on one combat. I think that in today%26#039;s world a system of real life combat requires BJJ. No one system has the answers to all the questions. That is why I always suggest that you train in several diff. styles and work out a way that is best for you. But if I had to study an already estab. system and only one, BJJ would be the answer for me.
Be as eclectic as you can. That is the true answer in my view.|||well i did 6 years of boxing and was good at it till some one bigger drop me on the ground with wealth on top of me. boxing didn%26#039;t work at all now i train bjj and i can do ground or strikes bjj its a complete street style of fighting|||In a life or death fight, with one or more opponents, you may not have time to take someone to the ground and fight them there. BJJ,MMA,UFC class of fighters are effective in some situations. But what if you need to stop that person in one or two blows,break bones,attack nerves,snap necks,take out eyes? Can you win in 2 seconds or 2 minutes? In a REAL fight, I don%26#039;t want to throw you away,wrestle with you or any thing that will prolong the battle. Now given that, if the fight is nonfatal or in the ring with its rules then BJJ, MMA fighters can%26#039;t be beat!|||No. There are many good systems. It is the artist, not the art.|||I practice Brazilian Jiu Jitsu as my dominant martial art, I have a history of greco-roman wrestling, along with Muay Thai/Tae Kwan Do. I am an MMA fighter, and I also teach Brazilian Jiu Jitsu a few times a week. I was also in the United States Marine Corps, so I can give you both the ups and downs of this art in a real life situation. I%26#039;m going to be completely honest here, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu CAN be effective in a hand to hand combat situation. However, I wouldn%26#039;t reccomend that be the only art you study. If you are speaking in terms of a street brawl where there are absolutely no holds barred, then I wouldn%26#039;t reccomend basing your defensive arsenal entirely off of BJJ. You can take a good deal of the techniques you learn from the art and apply them when necessary, but you are going to have to break the traditional rules a bit.
For most realistic fights, I always reccomend studying an art that bases itself around pressure points and %26quot;dirty%26quot; style fighting. Why? Say you%26#039;re in a scenario where a guy has you on the ground and he%26#039;s pounding you. Do you think you%26#039;re going to be wasting your time trying to trap an arm and utilizing an Upa mount escape (a BJJ technique)? No. Why do that when you can just gouge his eye? From an MMA standpoint and most light realistic situations, sure, BJJ as with other MMA arts are effective. However, if the situation is a bit more serious than that, you%26#039;re not gonna wanna worry about getting someone in your guard and submitting them. If you knock someone down, are you really going to mount him and then ground and pound? Hell no, I%26#039;m going to stomp his face in from above. I hope you see my point.
This is the reason that the Marine Corps Martial Arts program takes all the effective moves from a multitude of martial arts and applys them into their training itinerary. So, in brief; Brazilian Jiu Jitsu holds some water in realistic fighting, but it%26#039;s not smart to base your entire defensive arsenal off of its techniques.|||BJJ is NOT hand to hand combat. thats what they want you to think so you sign up. it is joint manipulation and submission grappling. NOT H2H combat.
if you want to train for more realistic fight scenarios, rolling around wearing a gi wont give it to you. you have to find someplace that trains in street clothes and shoes and the focus is on attack points of the enemy and the ways to pull it off, while traditional arts focus on technique and less damaging impact areas like punching the head.
punching the head relies on the opponent having a low tolerance to pain and/or the attacker being accurate and full force. under adrenalised situations, finesse is gone. not because you dropped your nuts, but because adrenaline distorts your cognitive abilities including fine motor skill.
if your focus is on maim points like throat, knees, eyes you can impact them any way you can and achieve a lot of damage that does not rely on pain as a deterrent. impacting the throat will cause serious injury in only one strike. H2H involves minimum time frames and minimum energy expenditure.
if a style trains for points or trophies, it isnt H2H.
if it relies on fine motor skill techniques (requiring concentration, accuracy, focus) it isnt H2H
not dropping sh!t on BJJ, but it isnt what people assume it is. great art, yes, but as soon as you CHOOSE to submit someone on the ground you expose yourself to attack by others. it is a one on one art, and even though most are, the stand up fighters can atleast move around to improve their odds, while the guy who needs to hold on and control someone has lost his hands in subduing the enemy.
I wouldnt want to ring fight under MMA rules.
I wouldnt want to fight a boxer under his rules too.
but when rules have gone, how safe is your art, and is it still a useful tool?
adrenaline is intense when you fight away from the trainers and hall, and adrenaline WILL cause problems. thats why most bar fights have hay makers all over the place. because all the finesse has gone. it is unavoidable under the effects of cognitive prioritising. people who you saw fight well against a bag or in sparring fight totally different outside.
if you want to be better at what ever you train in, learn about adrenaline and its effects. it does the same thing to everyone, whether they show it or not. the key is to control it through awareness before it controls you. once tunnel vision starts you may be a psycho, but you will go down through lack of environmental insight. so learn about it, and then decide if your art/s are able to function while under adrenalines grip, and learn anti-anxiety techniques involving control of breathing... this can make your odds better straight away.|||%26quot;Effective%26quot; is dependent on the skill and competence of the martial ARTIST, not the martial art.
.|||There%26#039;s a lot of dumping on BJJ here, but it is one of the most effective forms no doubt. There are many locks you can do from a standing position. And really anything that is a lock is only a good jerk away from a full break. For example someone who really knows what he is doing can take an opponent down and break their arm and be standing back up in a matter of seconds. We%26#039;re trained not to go to that point and watch for the tap, but in a street fight arms would be broken, elbows and knees would be dislocated making the opponent useless. Even a standing kimora can destroy a guys shoulder if you decided to.
In a street fight against a few opponents the strategy is to totally debilitate each oppnet one at a time. Permanently breaking limbs and putting someone unconscious is better than a punch in the face.
All this being said I also train muay Thai. To someone untrained I can decide to stand or to roll and fight them. But against a really good BJJ opponent he can take me down and finish me.|||BJJ is in NO WAY the most effective hand to hand style.
Imagine this scenerio: You%26#039;re in a bar and some guy picks a fight with a BJJ stylest. While the BJJ guy is grappling on the ground with the guy that started the fight, the BJJ guy is being kicked in the head by some of the other guy%26#039;s buddies. BJJ only teaches you to handle one person at a time. What if there are two or more?|||The simplest answer is NO... Dot...
More to the point, a fighter should be able to aaply their art at all ranges of fighting against all tactics.|||BJJ is one of the best arts to know if you want to fight, But if you are going for hand to hand, like some of these people say, you might come across more than one person, Kickboxing and judo. You can throw them, kick them and punch them.
lets be real, a street fight or hand to hand is nothing fancy so going with some martial art wont work. I have been in plenty of brawls and let me tell ya, spin kicks and karate chops wont work. You straight out punch and throw the person around. Kickboxing will teach you a balance of punching and kicking that are effective for stopping your oppisition. if you throw a bit of judo throwing its perfect for a multi person brawl. You can throw one guy, come up kick another and throw a punch and walla, you have done minimum work with max result :-)|||Id have to say Karate would be more effective, because your taught to use your whole body as a weapon, but with BJJ it focuses more on grappling meaning they attack the joints by using locks and submissions to win, so in reality BJJ is more effective if a fight is taking to the ground.|||Its hard to pick one. I know BJJ experts usually have good success in MMA but at the same time they sometimes get KO%26#039;d in the 1st round. I guess I would call BJJ and Muay Thai a draw. If you just practice one then the other one can beat you. Jujitsu is very good but unless you do alot of stand up training you always have a chance of being KO%26#039;d.|||The reason you see BJJ bandied about (full disclosure: I train BJJ), is the training methods, there%26#039;s nothing magical about the name.
Aliveness (google for Matt Thornton and Aliveness), is the thing you%26#039;re looking for for effective martial arts. There are more than one. You hear BJJ because it%26#039;s got good PR, but there are others. Judo, Sambo, Wrestling, Muay Thai, Western Boxing, to name a few.
Any system where the other guy gets a reward for handing you a beating is going to do better then one where the rewards are for repeating a kata, or form.
BJJ is certainly ONE of the more effective arts, but certainly not the only one.|||Most fights have a 70% chance of ending up on the ground, if you are better at finishing at the ground than the stats are on your side. A more diverse training of the many different styles out there will allow you to better adapt to a way fighting best fit for you. Mixing Martial arts is what you do to evolve the art of defense.|||All u have to train for is efficiency. apply your strongest weapon to the opponents weakest target(groin,shins,knees,eyes,ext) jujitsu is based on competition more than actual fighting so don%26#039;t forget foul tack tics (biting,pinching,hair pulling,ext..) above all is speed.instead of looking to styles just look to your self u can train your self better than any one,u know your self better than any instructor, the only secret to martial arts is not in the style but in the person.when it all is broken down combat is nothing more than punches and kicks.so when u are fighting any one don%26#039;t see the person(mister military man or 3rd degree black belt guy) see targets .u have to have to have the mental advantage as well as the physical u Know when someone does not have the right mental attitude when they say things like what if there%26#039;s multiple guys, or hes bigger than me. If u have to fight than man u fight!
Be as eclectic as you can. That is the true answer in my view.|||well i did 6 years of boxing and was good at it till some one bigger drop me on the ground with wealth on top of me. boxing didn%26#039;t work at all now i train bjj and i can do ground or strikes bjj its a complete street style of fighting|||In a life or death fight, with one or more opponents, you may not have time to take someone to the ground and fight them there. BJJ,MMA,UFC class of fighters are effective in some situations. But what if you need to stop that person in one or two blows,break bones,attack nerves,snap necks,take out eyes? Can you win in 2 seconds or 2 minutes? In a REAL fight, I don%26#039;t want to throw you away,wrestle with you or any thing that will prolong the battle. Now given that, if the fight is nonfatal or in the ring with its rules then BJJ, MMA fighters can%26#039;t be beat!|||No. There are many good systems. It is the artist, not the art.|||I practice Brazilian Jiu Jitsu as my dominant martial art, I have a history of greco-roman wrestling, along with Muay Thai/Tae Kwan Do. I am an MMA fighter, and I also teach Brazilian Jiu Jitsu a few times a week. I was also in the United States Marine Corps, so I can give you both the ups and downs of this art in a real life situation. I%26#039;m going to be completely honest here, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu CAN be effective in a hand to hand combat situation. However, I wouldn%26#039;t reccomend that be the only art you study. If you are speaking in terms of a street brawl where there are absolutely no holds barred, then I wouldn%26#039;t reccomend basing your defensive arsenal entirely off of BJJ. You can take a good deal of the techniques you learn from the art and apply them when necessary, but you are going to have to break the traditional rules a bit.
For most realistic fights, I always reccomend studying an art that bases itself around pressure points and %26quot;dirty%26quot; style fighting. Why? Say you%26#039;re in a scenario where a guy has you on the ground and he%26#039;s pounding you. Do you think you%26#039;re going to be wasting your time trying to trap an arm and utilizing an Upa mount escape (a BJJ technique)? No. Why do that when you can just gouge his eye? From an MMA standpoint and most light realistic situations, sure, BJJ as with other MMA arts are effective. However, if the situation is a bit more serious than that, you%26#039;re not gonna wanna worry about getting someone in your guard and submitting them. If you knock someone down, are you really going to mount him and then ground and pound? Hell no, I%26#039;m going to stomp his face in from above. I hope you see my point.
This is the reason that the Marine Corps Martial Arts program takes all the effective moves from a multitude of martial arts and applys them into their training itinerary. So, in brief; Brazilian Jiu Jitsu holds some water in realistic fighting, but it%26#039;s not smart to base your entire defensive arsenal off of its techniques.|||BJJ is NOT hand to hand combat. thats what they want you to think so you sign up. it is joint manipulation and submission grappling. NOT H2H combat.
if you want to train for more realistic fight scenarios, rolling around wearing a gi wont give it to you. you have to find someplace that trains in street clothes and shoes and the focus is on attack points of the enemy and the ways to pull it off, while traditional arts focus on technique and less damaging impact areas like punching the head.
punching the head relies on the opponent having a low tolerance to pain and/or the attacker being accurate and full force. under adrenalised situations, finesse is gone. not because you dropped your nuts, but because adrenaline distorts your cognitive abilities including fine motor skill.
if your focus is on maim points like throat, knees, eyes you can impact them any way you can and achieve a lot of damage that does not rely on pain as a deterrent. impacting the throat will cause serious injury in only one strike. H2H involves minimum time frames and minimum energy expenditure.
if a style trains for points or trophies, it isnt H2H.
if it relies on fine motor skill techniques (requiring concentration, accuracy, focus) it isnt H2H
not dropping sh!t on BJJ, but it isnt what people assume it is. great art, yes, but as soon as you CHOOSE to submit someone on the ground you expose yourself to attack by others. it is a one on one art, and even though most are, the stand up fighters can atleast move around to improve their odds, while the guy who needs to hold on and control someone has lost his hands in subduing the enemy.
I wouldnt want to ring fight under MMA rules.
I wouldnt want to fight a boxer under his rules too.
but when rules have gone, how safe is your art, and is it still a useful tool?
adrenaline is intense when you fight away from the trainers and hall, and adrenaline WILL cause problems. thats why most bar fights have hay makers all over the place. because all the finesse has gone. it is unavoidable under the effects of cognitive prioritising. people who you saw fight well against a bag or in sparring fight totally different outside.
if you want to be better at what ever you train in, learn about adrenaline and its effects. it does the same thing to everyone, whether they show it or not. the key is to control it through awareness before it controls you. once tunnel vision starts you may be a psycho, but you will go down through lack of environmental insight. so learn about it, and then decide if your art/s are able to function while under adrenalines grip, and learn anti-anxiety techniques involving control of breathing... this can make your odds better straight away.|||%26quot;Effective%26quot; is dependent on the skill and competence of the martial ARTIST, not the martial art.
.|||There%26#039;s a lot of dumping on BJJ here, but it is one of the most effective forms no doubt. There are many locks you can do from a standing position. And really anything that is a lock is only a good jerk away from a full break. For example someone who really knows what he is doing can take an opponent down and break their arm and be standing back up in a matter of seconds. We%26#039;re trained not to go to that point and watch for the tap, but in a street fight arms would be broken, elbows and knees would be dislocated making the opponent useless. Even a standing kimora can destroy a guys shoulder if you decided to.
In a street fight against a few opponents the strategy is to totally debilitate each oppnet one at a time. Permanently breaking limbs and putting someone unconscious is better than a punch in the face.
All this being said I also train muay Thai. To someone untrained I can decide to stand or to roll and fight them. But against a really good BJJ opponent he can take me down and finish me.|||BJJ is in NO WAY the most effective hand to hand style.
Imagine this scenerio: You%26#039;re in a bar and some guy picks a fight with a BJJ stylest. While the BJJ guy is grappling on the ground with the guy that started the fight, the BJJ guy is being kicked in the head by some of the other guy%26#039;s buddies. BJJ only teaches you to handle one person at a time. What if there are two or more?|||The simplest answer is NO... Dot...
More to the point, a fighter should be able to aaply their art at all ranges of fighting against all tactics.|||BJJ is one of the best arts to know if you want to fight, But if you are going for hand to hand, like some of these people say, you might come across more than one person, Kickboxing and judo. You can throw them, kick them and punch them.
lets be real, a street fight or hand to hand is nothing fancy so going with some martial art wont work. I have been in plenty of brawls and let me tell ya, spin kicks and karate chops wont work. You straight out punch and throw the person around. Kickboxing will teach you a balance of punching and kicking that are effective for stopping your oppisition. if you throw a bit of judo throwing its perfect for a multi person brawl. You can throw one guy, come up kick another and throw a punch and walla, you have done minimum work with max result :-)|||Id have to say Karate would be more effective, because your taught to use your whole body as a weapon, but with BJJ it focuses more on grappling meaning they attack the joints by using locks and submissions to win, so in reality BJJ is more effective if a fight is taking to the ground.|||Its hard to pick one. I know BJJ experts usually have good success in MMA but at the same time they sometimes get KO%26#039;d in the 1st round. I guess I would call BJJ and Muay Thai a draw. If you just practice one then the other one can beat you. Jujitsu is very good but unless you do alot of stand up training you always have a chance of being KO%26#039;d.|||The reason you see BJJ bandied about (full disclosure: I train BJJ), is the training methods, there%26#039;s nothing magical about the name.
Aliveness (google for Matt Thornton and Aliveness), is the thing you%26#039;re looking for for effective martial arts. There are more than one. You hear BJJ because it%26#039;s got good PR, but there are others. Judo, Sambo, Wrestling, Muay Thai, Western Boxing, to name a few.
Any system where the other guy gets a reward for handing you a beating is going to do better then one where the rewards are for repeating a kata, or form.
BJJ is certainly ONE of the more effective arts, but certainly not the only one.|||Most fights have a 70% chance of ending up on the ground, if you are better at finishing at the ground than the stats are on your side. A more diverse training of the many different styles out there will allow you to better adapt to a way fighting best fit for you. Mixing Martial arts is what you do to evolve the art of defense.|||All u have to train for is efficiency. apply your strongest weapon to the opponents weakest target(groin,shins,knees,eyes,ext) jujitsu is based on competition more than actual fighting so don%26#039;t forget foul tack tics (biting,pinching,hair pulling,ext..) above all is speed.instead of looking to styles just look to your self u can train your self better than any one,u know your self better than any instructor, the only secret to martial arts is not in the style but in the person.when it all is broken down combat is nothing more than punches and kicks.so when u are fighting any one don%26#039;t see the person(mister military man or 3rd degree black belt guy) see targets .u have to have to have the mental advantage as well as the physical u Know when someone does not have the right mental attitude when they say things like what if there%26#039;s multiple guys, or hes bigger than me. If u have to fight than man u fight!
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