Monday, November 16, 2009

Which UFC fighters have the best of the following: Jujitsu, Wrestling, Kickboxing, Boxing and Takedowns?

Give me your top few guys in Each category. Here is mine





Jujitsu: 1) Nog, 2) BJJ and 3) Nick Diaz





Wrestling: 1) Henderson, 2) Hughes and 3) Couture





Kickboxing 1) Wanderlai Silva 2) Anderson Silva and Cro Cop





Boxing 1) Rampage 2) Henderson and 3) Chuck Liddell (even though Chuck is good with his legs I still would count him on of the best with his hands)





Takedowns 1) Karo Parisian 2) Matt Hughes and 3) Henderson





I may have screwed this all up. What do you all think? Feel free to give more then top 3 if you want.|||JJ: HW=Big Nog, LHW=Babalu, MW=Filho, WW=Penn, LW=Penn/Aoki





Judo: Parisyan.





Wrestling: HW=Couture, LHW=Henderson, MW=Henderson/Lindland, WW=Hughes/Koscheck, LW=Sherk





Kickboxing/Muay Thai: Cro Cop, Wanderlei, Shogun, Anderson Silva.





Boxing: Liddell, Rampage, Arlovski, Anderson Silva, Rich Franklin.





Takedowns: Arona, Filho, Koscheck, Parisyan, Lindland, Henderson, Hughes, Sherk.|||My list is best fighters in each individual combat sport rather than effective use in MMA, in other words not who has pulled off more Jiu Jitsu submissions in the octagon but who would get farther in the ADCC (yearly Jiu Jitsu tournament)





Jiu Jitsu- BJ Penn, Nick Diaz, Nog, Gonzaga, Shogun


Wrestling: Sean Sherk, Dan Henderson, Randy Couture, Josh Koscheck, GSP


Kickboxing: Anderson Silva, Mirko Cro Cop, Cheik Kongo, GSP


Boxing: Jens Pulver, Nick Diaz, GSP, Tim Sylvia, Rampage


Muay Tai: Anderson Silva, Wanderlie Silva, Shogun





Edit post UFC 74: as far as effective wrestling inside the octagon goes GSP all the way, he has now outwrestled Matt Hughes, Frank Trigg, Sean Sherk, and Josh Koscheck, all accomplished wrestlers who he not only avoided the takedown that they seem to get so easily on their other opponents, he took all of them down at will.|||JuJitsu: BJ Penn, Matt Sera, Nick Diez


Judo: Karo (I added this because the ground work is esentialy the same as JuJitsu and he is as good as the other 3)





Wrestling: Matt LindLund(not UFC but the best in MMA), Sean Sherk, Josh Kos, Matt Hughes (quickly on the way out though)...





Kickboxing: Anderson Silva, Cro-Cop,





Boxing... difficult to answer alot of good strikers but none of them are trained boxers.





Takedowns: Karo Parisyan, Sherk, Hughes (but again he is on the way out)





ADDITIONAL: Ok guys he said fighters ni the UFC not in all of MMA. Read the question properly first before answering.


And Joe B, GSP is not a wrestler nor is he a boxer. He trained in Karate for years growing up then switched to kickboxing 10 years ago and BJJ 6-7.





Like mentioned in another answer. It is hard and will only get harder to find the best at the rate the UFC fighters are growing and changing. I know that the guy with the belt isn%26#039;t the best. But in a couple of years that may be the only way of figurig out who is.|||I find it hard to believe that only 1 other person listed Rich Franklin. There are far too many talented gentlemen in the MMA to list a top list. Wait a few years and I%26#039;ll bet it will be even more difficult to list the best.|||matt Hughes has got everything end of discussion|||I would%26#039;nt call Anderson or Wanderlei kickboxers necessarily, they are more Muay Thai. Cro Cop is more of a old fashioned kickboxer. I would have to mostly agree with you except I would put Koshcheck up there for takedowns over Karo. I would put Karo%26#039;s judo up there for sure though. Werdum is a world renowned Brazilian Jui Jitsu stylist, more accomplished then Nick Diaz. Hendo has great hands, but not as good as the Iceman. And you got to have Scherk somewhere in there for wrestling even though he is a cheater.|||BJJ- BJ Penn, Big Nog





Wrestling- Henderson, Koscheck





Kickboxing- Cro Cop, GSP





Boxing- Rampage, Chris Lytle deserves a mention because he%26#039;s an accomplished pro boxer





Takedowns- Hughes, Karo%26#039;s throws are great to watch|||Jujitsu: Gonzaga (he really put a clinic on Carmelo Marerra if you didn%26#039;t see that fight)





Wrestling: Koscheck and Matt Lindland





Boxing: I have to go with St-Pierre because of his excellent footwork





Takedowns: Randy Couture





I%26#039;m probably forgetting some people but thats just everyone that comes to mind.|||My first reaction is that Koscheck is the best wrestler. But there are so many world class caliber wrestlers who transition over into MMA, that it really is a question that you could debate endlessly. I actually think, due to the importance of the clinch, greco-roman wrestling is an even stronger background for MMA than free-style or collegiate rules are. The team quest trio of Henderson, Couture and Lindland are all extremely accomplished greco-roman wrestlers, and if the question is, which former wrestler is best at using his wrestling background to win fights, you would have to pick one of those three.





Karo Parisian has some beautiful throws, but I don%26#039;t think his over-all takedowns are as good as any of the top tier wrestlers like Sherk, Hughes, Couture, etcetera.





For boxers, I think Marcus Davis might have about the best pro boxing resume of any current top MMA fighters.





I find it interesting that I don%26#039;t see Feder mentioned by anybody for any of these categories. But I am pretty sure a lot of us would still say he was the best over all fighter. I actually think he is one of the better boxers in the heavy weight class.

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