Thursday, November 12, 2009

What's the difference between jujitsu and brazilian jujitsu?

Japanese jujitsu is BJJ plus standup grappling and strikes. Or, BJJ is Judo without throws, and Judo is a jujitsu without standup grappling and strikes.





Bottom line difference: one has standup grappling and strikes, the other doesnt.|||Japanese JiuJutsu is primarily standup, going to the ground only to follow an opponent there after a lock or turn to finish them. It%26#039;s far more adept for handling multiple people, and is much more graceful and fluid. Think hapkido with less kicking and more focus on stance and opponent manipulation. Brazilian is mainly a ground tactic that relies very heavily on holds and tap out tactics. It%26#039;s great for sport and one on one, but outside of that, it%26#039;s pretty limited. That%26#039;s not to say it%26#039;s not useful - I%26#039;ve seen it in the hands of skilled artists, and it takes only a half second for them to put you on the ground and get you locked. It%26#039;s not, if done right, anything like what you see on UFC.|||Imprint this into your brain.


JUJUTSU or JITSU is a generic term applied to about 20 styles of grappling just as karate or kempo or kung fu are generic terms for a whole punch of methods .


BJJ is a specific term for the GRACIES adaptation of JUDO ground work .Their sensei was a well known JUDO champion they never studied jujutsu.


They couldn%26#039;t call it GRACIE JUDO because it doesn%26#039;t emphasize all the aspects of JUDO and JUDO is a specific term for KANO%26#039; S jujutsu.


People who say jujutsu only does this or only does that are not familiar with all the forms of jujitsu .The GRACIES aren%26#039;t the 1st to emphasize one aspect of a system just the most well known.|||Jujitsu is also known as small circle Jujitsu which uses joint locks such as wrists to take a person down.





Brazilian Jiujitsu is pure ground game and focuses on submissions such as choke holds and locks etc.|||You should visit the official Gracie website. They explain everything there. Or, go to a local bookstore and thumb through any books written by the Gracies or %26quot;Kid Peligro.%26quot; They explain the differences very well.|||japanese jujitsu was there first|||jujitsu is mostly stand up and uses more strength|||Judo was developed from older styles of Japanses Ju-jitsu.





One student of Kano Jigoro (the founder of JUDO) moved to Brazil and taught Carlos and Helio Gracie, the founders of BJJ.





BRAZILIAN JU-JITSU WAS DEVELOPED FROM EARLY JUDO.





At the time, the term %26quot;Judo%26quot; was new and unfamiliar, many people still called it ju-jitsu instead of Judo.





Look it up on wikipedia:





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ju-jitsu


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judo


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_J...





Old (martial) Japanese Ju-jitsu





-%26gt; JUDO





-%26gt; New (sport) Briazilian Ju-jitsu





Japanese %26quot;martial%26quot; Ju-jitsu has many varied styles. Some of them resemble Aikido (also comes from Ju-jitsu), which employs no groundfighting techniques. Many others incorporated standing and ground techniques similar to Judo and BJJ. Many were (are) practiced ritualistically, and never attempt techniques on a resistive opponent, while others employ an amount of freestyle %26quot;sparring%26quot; like Judo and BJJ.


Many of the techniques are the same in both ju-jitsus, BJJ schools put a much greater emphasis on freestyle practice than most Japanese schools, but some schools are changing as a result of pressure put on other styles by the competiveness of BJJ.





Wikipedia: Jujutsu ...evolved among the samurai of feudal Japan as a method for dispatching an armed and armored opponent in situations where the use of weapons was impractical or forbidden. Due to the difficulty of dispatching an armored opponent with striking techniques, the most efficient methods for neutralizing an enemy took the form of pins, joint locks, and throws.





Judo was developed from Japanese Ju-jitsu by Kano Jigoro (1860-1938) when he was in his 20%26#039;s (1880-something).





Mitsuyo Maedaone, one of Kano Jigoro%26#039;s students, was sent to Brazil as a diplomat in 1914 (Judo had only been around for 30+years at the time). Maeda met an influential businessman named Gast茫o Gracie who helped him get established. In 1917, his son Carlos Gracie, still a 14 year-old boy, watched a demonstration by Maeda ... Maeda accepted Carlos as a student, and Carlos, with his younger brother H茅lio Gracie became the founder of ... modern Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.





The Gracie family continued to develop the system throughout the 20th century, often fighting vale tudo matches (precursors to modern MMA), during which it increased its focus on ground fighting and refined its techniques.





What%26#039;s the difference between Judo and BJJ?


Primarily the rules for scoring points:





In Judo, two standing opponents get a full point for one, good clean throw or sweep, and maybe a half-point for one not-so clean technique that got the job done. If both fall to the ground, but not as the result of an effective throw or sweep the fight continues on the ground (with a time limit). A match may be one by holding an opponent immobile with a headlock or other technique for 25 seconds. This would score a few points in BJJ, but would not end the match. Naturally, the standing throws and sweeps are slightly more important in Judo, though groundwork is still necessary (some would argue they are equal in Judo).





Judo matches are won by the first full point (or two half-points)


BJJ matches are won by total points accumulated during the time period of the match (4 minutes or 5 minutes). A successfully executed throw, take down or sweep could score a point, but the fight would continue, with points continuously awarded for achieving a superior positions. BJJ matches could end 5-points to 6 points or 11 points to 8, unlike Judo which ends with the first full point.





BJJ matches may also be won by a decisive submission technique such as arm bar, choke, etc., that causes the opponent to submit by %26quot;tapping%26quot; the ground with one hand, but would not be ended by holding an opponent immobile for 25 seconds, like in Judo.





Because of the rules of BJJ competition, extensive groundfighting expertise is more advantageous than standing techniques, and are thus emphasized in training.





The rules of Judo competition require excellent skill at throws and sweeps from a standing position, which are thsu emphasized in Judo training.





The rules of BJJ may more closely resemble the %26quot;no-rules%26quot; scenario of a street fight: just because he%26#039;s on the ground doesn%26#039;t mean he%26#039;s going to stop fighting.


It does make sense, however, that in a street fight there may be multiple attackers, or knives or guns, and it could be very advantageous to dispatch an attacker with a single, quick and poweful Judo technique that does not require you yourself to be on the ground , fully commited to the first attacker and unable to deal with a second (BJJ).





The mantra of many BJJ schools is that %26quot;99% of all fights go to the ground%26quot;. That may be true for highly trained fighters in a controlled sports competition with no concealed knives or guns.


But I have a good friend who lived in foster homes and government institutions from the age of 8 to 18, was in about a hundred or so street fights during that part of his life, once even breaking an opponents arm.





How many of those fights went to the ground? Not a single one.





I still think I would choose BJJ. I%26#039;ve done a little of both - BJJ is easier if your not so young any more. But it%26#039;s a difficult choice; Judo is very enjoyable and effective. Japanese ju-jitsu? Ritual-based,AIkido like non-competitive styles: been, there, did that, didn%26#039;t get much out of it. Competitive styles that train groundfighting; only if they train like a BJJ school.





The main difference is not in the techniques. They mostly use the same techniques. The difference is in the way the train - BJJ trains realistically, Japanese Ju-jitsu often, but not always, trains more ritualistically than realistically.

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