Sunday, April 26, 2009
How athletic / strong do you have to be to be good at Jujitsu?
I%26#039;m just wondering for those who are really good at Jujitsu are have rolled with really good guys how athletic and strong to you have to be to be a serious player like a black belt Gracie level. Watching like the Gracie family it seems like they are athletic but no super athletes. Is is safe to say that an average athlete can go along way in Jujitsu?|||You don%26#039;t have to be big and strong to be a jujitsu player. My instructor is a 2nd degree black belt under Gracie Barra and is only 135-140 pounds and about 5%26#039;5. He%26#039;s very good and as all martial arts go it%26#039;s about technique not strength. The smaller guy must have better techniques to beat the bigger guy. I%26#039;m 5%26#039;9 156 pounds and roll with guys in the 200 pound range; if it wasn%26#039;t for technique, cardio and timing they would squash me like an ant. So it%26#039;s really about training hard and putting in work to get good in jujitsu; being from an athletic background will help greatly in terms of coordination, cardio etc but it will definitely take some time in order for you to excel in jujitsu. Good luck!|||I can%26#039;t say. But I%26#039;m in a different form of Martial Arts, and we had a guy that was in Jujitsu join and let%26#039;s just say he could toss me around like a rag doll. That was mainly because he was a concrete worker though. Report Abuse
|||Yes an average athelete can do well, you don%26#039;t even have to be in good shape to study the discipline, but it helps since most of the techniques work from the core muscle groups (abs and obliques).
look at the Grandmaster of Gracie Jujitsu, Helio Gracie himself was not a very physical specimen, even in his youth.
as he is now in his 90%26#039;s he CONSIDERED even more a frail man, but he can still put most people far younger than he into a submission technique or even choke another person out even his sons.
So a guy like you shouldn%26#039;t have a problem doing well in their ground fighting discipline.
the Gracies are very much a healthy and muscular group of Martial Artists, but they also know the values of weight training, cardio, and good nutrition through diet as should everyone, especially those of us who physically exert ourselves be it whatever we do either for fun, or jobs.|||Well, for traditional japanese jujitsu, you don%26#039;t have to be that big and strong, some flexibility is good, especially in the shoulders and hips, but besides that most taichiwaza (standing technique) is very technical and aimed towards maximum efficiency so yeah, athleticy is second to brains. Groundwork (newaza) though, is very enduring and can wear a guy down in under a minute if you fight poorly and waste a lot of energy, so it is good to get lots of cardio and build up strength in the areas important to grappling, although i can attest that through good technique, even on the ground where the larger man has the greater advantage, you can still win through brains and speed. So yes, a less athletic person can go a long way doing jujitsu, but in turn by doing jujitsu, you will become a great deal more athletic.|||Jiu-jitsu is an art of the mind body and soul. You can%26#039;t be great at it right off the bat. the gracie%26#039;s have been known for their jiu-jitsu for a long time now and all of them know that it takes great conditioning, technique and heart to go out there and perform. you really shouldn%26#039;t go in with an attitude that your an average athlete, cause i%26#039;ve had countless numbers of great athletes that couldn%26#039;t hang with beginner jiu-jitsu students. its not for everybody but if you have the desire to want to do it you can go far|||One purpose of Martial Arts is to enable smaller people to protect themselves against bigger stronger people.|||Anyone can be proficient in any art. Jujitsu and it%26#039;s counter part Judo are very suiting to people from many different sizes and strengths.
I can garentee that it will only take a few months of training before you are in better shape and stronger than you have ever been in your life. Add a mile or 2 a day of running and you will have great cardio as well in a matter of weeks.
Jujitsu in the dojo is 80% technique/skill and 20% cardio, strength and physical health. In competition however it can easily be completely reversed.
I trained in Judo for over 12 years and stopped for a while. I recently got back into it a few months ago. In the dojo I am easily matching up to biger higher ranked partners. I competed on Dec. 2nd for the first time in many years I fought 2 matches and was already tired 1 minute into the first and almost quit do to exhaustion 3 minutes into the second. Although I out matched my opponant in both strenght and skill ultimatly my cardio failed me. And he was able to throw me for the point to win.
In other words dojo training equals learning good skills and techniques but requires little cardio and strength training. But competition requires alot of cardio training.|||I am 6%26#039; 250lbs, very strong in both legs, back, arms and neck. I am decent at BJJ as I have been studing for 3 years. Having said that I am still bested by a few 130 and 150 lbs guys that are extremely flexible and fast. JJ is a great art as if you dedicate yourself to it, it will level the playing field very quick and humble many foes. Average athlete could do great. I am an ex-athlete, that balloned to 310 lbs, before I got reintroduced to martial arts.|||You don%26#039;t have to be that strong to be good at it. However you do need a very good stamina for it though. It take LONG time to be good at it but once you%26#039;re really good, it%26#039;s very difficult for others to beat you in grappling.
I would HATE get in fight and end up on ground with very experienced grappler.|||Have you ever spent 2 minutes grappling? It is tiring! Cardio.|||Some strength is a plus. But it is a leverage system. Find a good teacher. Check out there back round, and have some fun.|||Anywhere between being able to run half an hour at a time to being able to run a marathon. Less fit would do if it was just messing around and the likes.
|||Yes an average athelete can do well, you don%26#039;t even have to be in good shape to study the discipline, but it helps since most of the techniques work from the core muscle groups (abs and obliques).
look at the Grandmaster of Gracie Jujitsu, Helio Gracie himself was not a very physical specimen, even in his youth.
as he is now in his 90%26#039;s he CONSIDERED even more a frail man, but he can still put most people far younger than he into a submission technique or even choke another person out even his sons.
So a guy like you shouldn%26#039;t have a problem doing well in their ground fighting discipline.
the Gracies are very much a healthy and muscular group of Martial Artists, but they also know the values of weight training, cardio, and good nutrition through diet as should everyone, especially those of us who physically exert ourselves be it whatever we do either for fun, or jobs.|||Well, for traditional japanese jujitsu, you don%26#039;t have to be that big and strong, some flexibility is good, especially in the shoulders and hips, but besides that most taichiwaza (standing technique) is very technical and aimed towards maximum efficiency so yeah, athleticy is second to brains. Groundwork (newaza) though, is very enduring and can wear a guy down in under a minute if you fight poorly and waste a lot of energy, so it is good to get lots of cardio and build up strength in the areas important to grappling, although i can attest that through good technique, even on the ground where the larger man has the greater advantage, you can still win through brains and speed. So yes, a less athletic person can go a long way doing jujitsu, but in turn by doing jujitsu, you will become a great deal more athletic.|||Jiu-jitsu is an art of the mind body and soul. You can%26#039;t be great at it right off the bat. the gracie%26#039;s have been known for their jiu-jitsu for a long time now and all of them know that it takes great conditioning, technique and heart to go out there and perform. you really shouldn%26#039;t go in with an attitude that your an average athlete, cause i%26#039;ve had countless numbers of great athletes that couldn%26#039;t hang with beginner jiu-jitsu students. its not for everybody but if you have the desire to want to do it you can go far|||One purpose of Martial Arts is to enable smaller people to protect themselves against bigger stronger people.|||Anyone can be proficient in any art. Jujitsu and it%26#039;s counter part Judo are very suiting to people from many different sizes and strengths.
I can garentee that it will only take a few months of training before you are in better shape and stronger than you have ever been in your life. Add a mile or 2 a day of running and you will have great cardio as well in a matter of weeks.
Jujitsu in the dojo is 80% technique/skill and 20% cardio, strength and physical health. In competition however it can easily be completely reversed.
I trained in Judo for over 12 years and stopped for a while. I recently got back into it a few months ago. In the dojo I am easily matching up to biger higher ranked partners. I competed on Dec. 2nd for the first time in many years I fought 2 matches and was already tired 1 minute into the first and almost quit do to exhaustion 3 minutes into the second. Although I out matched my opponant in both strenght and skill ultimatly my cardio failed me. And he was able to throw me for the point to win.
In other words dojo training equals learning good skills and techniques but requires little cardio and strength training. But competition requires alot of cardio training.|||I am 6%26#039; 250lbs, very strong in both legs, back, arms and neck. I am decent at BJJ as I have been studing for 3 years. Having said that I am still bested by a few 130 and 150 lbs guys that are extremely flexible and fast. JJ is a great art as if you dedicate yourself to it, it will level the playing field very quick and humble many foes. Average athlete could do great. I am an ex-athlete, that balloned to 310 lbs, before I got reintroduced to martial arts.|||You don%26#039;t have to be that strong to be good at it. However you do need a very good stamina for it though. It take LONG time to be good at it but once you%26#039;re really good, it%26#039;s very difficult for others to beat you in grappling.
I would HATE get in fight and end up on ground with very experienced grappler.|||Have you ever spent 2 minutes grappling? It is tiring! Cardio.|||Some strength is a plus. But it is a leverage system. Find a good teacher. Check out there back round, and have some fun.|||Anywhere between being able to run half an hour at a time to being able to run a marathon. Less fit would do if it was just messing around and the likes.
What are the main differences between brazilian jujitsu and jukido jujitsu?
I am trying to decide between brazilian jujitsu and jukido jujitsu and im unsure of which academy to join. What are the main differences between the 2? Thanks|||Jukido Jujitsu is usually taught with a karate form (Kokondo) and is considered a %26quot;complete%26quot; art. There are aspects of grappling, striking, throws, and submissions. The training is pretty traditional in it%26#039;s approach and is focused on practical self defense and the traditional bushido codes. Most teachers do not want their students entering tournaments for competition as it is seen as disruptive to the self defense training. I don%26#039;t have any experience with Kokondo or Jukido Jujitsu but it%26#039;s well respected as far as I have heard.
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is mainly considered a grappling art, but many schools teach basic striking and striking defense, and some teach %26quot;MMA%26quot; principles (Mixed Martial Arts). Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (BJJ) focuses on opponent control through gaining dominant position (like wrestling) and then submission without strikes through the use of chokes and locks. You will learn the fight game from free-movement to clinch to ground, with the ultimage goal being submitting the opponent on the ground. BJJ is really a single combat weaponless form (one-on-one) more than a self defense form (armed attacker or multiple attackers).
|||There are no main differences. The differences are subtle, but profound. I prefer the jukido form, but the Brazilian form has its merits. I suggest you find a dojo that teaches both, and work from there.|||...WTF is Jukido Jujitsu?|||-JUTSU not -JITSU!
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is mainly considered a grappling art, but many schools teach basic striking and striking defense, and some teach %26quot;MMA%26quot; principles (Mixed Martial Arts). Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (BJJ) focuses on opponent control through gaining dominant position (like wrestling) and then submission without strikes through the use of chokes and locks. You will learn the fight game from free-movement to clinch to ground, with the ultimage goal being submitting the opponent on the ground. BJJ is really a single combat weaponless form (one-on-one) more than a self defense form (armed attacker or multiple attackers).
|||There are no main differences. The differences are subtle, but profound. I prefer the jukido form, but the Brazilian form has its merits. I suggest you find a dojo that teaches both, and work from there.|||...WTF is Jukido Jujitsu?|||-JUTSU not -JITSU!
What is the difference between these JuJitsu and Aikido technique names?
I did JuJitsu and Aikido for several years, and four of the basic controlling techniques which are essentially the same, have slightly different names:
JuJitsu: Ikkajo, Nikajo, Sankajo, Yonkajo
Aikido: Ikkyo, nikyo, sankyo, yonkyo
What is the difference between these naming conventions?|||According to someone on Aikiweb it is dialectal.
%26quot;The -kajo suffix was used in %26quot;older%26quot; martial arts like Daito ryu aikijujutsu from which aikido stems.%26quot;
It appears that depending on the lineage of aikido, some (like Yoshinkan) use the older terminology. They mean the same thing.|||Actually, %26quot;Ich%26quot;, %26quot;Ni%26quot;, %26quot;San%26quot;, %26quot;Yon%26quot; and %26quot;Go%26quot; are Japanese sequential or ranking terms the equivalent of which are %26quot;First%26quot;, %26quot;Second%26quot;, %26quot;Third%26quot;, %26quot;Fourth%26quot; and %26quot;Fifth%26quot; in English. Am not sure about %26quot;Kajo%26quot; though I have encountered old Aikido manuals that used the %26quot;kajo%26quot; nomenclature before, but as someone above has posted, it is possibly an archaic Japanese term which evolved to %26quot;kyu%26quot; today, kinda like how the English word %26quot;Can not%26quot; evolved to %26quot;Can%26#039;t%26quot;. Anyone who speaks Japanese can correct me on this. But %26quot;Kyu%26quot; in my experience is a ranking designation below Dan or master grade. Think of it this way, the %26quot;Kyu%26quot; wazas are like grade school level lessons and the Dan(or Black belt rankings) are high school level lessons. So basically Ikkyu, Nikkyu, Sankyu, Yonkyu and Gokyu are literally translated as First grade technique, Second grade technique, Third grade technique and etc. referring to lessons or techniques on that grade or rank level. For the Dan rankings, the terms used are Shodan, Nidan, Sandan and so forth. As you can see, these terms are generic Japanese terms and therefore explains why it is used in other Japanese martial arts%26#039; teaching curriculum especially those that trace their origins from Aikijujitsu, to simplify the lessons and identify the different techniques in each system.
JuJitsu: Ikkajo, Nikajo, Sankajo, Yonkajo
Aikido: Ikkyo, nikyo, sankyo, yonkyo
What is the difference between these naming conventions?|||According to someone on Aikiweb it is dialectal.
%26quot;The -kajo suffix was used in %26quot;older%26quot; martial arts like Daito ryu aikijujutsu from which aikido stems.%26quot;
It appears that depending on the lineage of aikido, some (like Yoshinkan) use the older terminology. They mean the same thing.|||Actually, %26quot;Ich%26quot;, %26quot;Ni%26quot;, %26quot;San%26quot;, %26quot;Yon%26quot; and %26quot;Go%26quot; are Japanese sequential or ranking terms the equivalent of which are %26quot;First%26quot;, %26quot;Second%26quot;, %26quot;Third%26quot;, %26quot;Fourth%26quot; and %26quot;Fifth%26quot; in English. Am not sure about %26quot;Kajo%26quot; though I have encountered old Aikido manuals that used the %26quot;kajo%26quot; nomenclature before, but as someone above has posted, it is possibly an archaic Japanese term which evolved to %26quot;kyu%26quot; today, kinda like how the English word %26quot;Can not%26quot; evolved to %26quot;Can%26#039;t%26quot;. Anyone who speaks Japanese can correct me on this. But %26quot;Kyu%26quot; in my experience is a ranking designation below Dan or master grade. Think of it this way, the %26quot;Kyu%26quot; wazas are like grade school level lessons and the Dan(or Black belt rankings) are high school level lessons. So basically Ikkyu, Nikkyu, Sankyu, Yonkyu and Gokyu are literally translated as First grade technique, Second grade technique, Third grade technique and etc. referring to lessons or techniques on that grade or rank level. For the Dan rankings, the terms used are Shodan, Nidan, Sandan and so forth. As you can see, these terms are generic Japanese terms and therefore explains why it is used in other Japanese martial arts%26#039; teaching curriculum especially those that trace their origins from Aikijujitsu, to simplify the lessons and identify the different techniques in each system.
What is the difference between Jujitsu is Brazilian Jujitsu?
What is the difference between Jujitsu is Brazilian Jujitsu and what is more effective in a fight situation. I have been told that Brazilian Jujitsu is superior because their training is more situation oriented whereas traditional Jujitsu is more like stand there and let me put you in arm bar.|||I have taken both, and BJJ is more effective, even in a street fight. Most of the times, a fight will end up on the ground. Then again, if you are attacked by 4 people... then don%26#039;t worry, you will be screwed with any martial art.. unless you are Steven Segal in a movie.
Many will say that jujitsu can%26#039;t be used since its deadly groin kicks and snaps to the neck... but that is simple to eliminate for a UFC fight. Last time i heard... there have been no pure jujitsu champs at UFC.|||There is no difference. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is just Jiu Jitsu brought from Japan.
Now Gracie Jiu Jitsu, that is superior to all other Martial Arts, as proven time and time again.|||Jujitsu is actually SUPERIOR to Brazilian Jujitsu! Thats a fact!
Because BJJ teaches you techniques that are used for sport COMPETITION not a street fight! And the last thing you want to do is be rolling around on the ground looking for a submission like BJJ does during a street fight!
Regular Jujitsu teaches defense against weapons and defense against multiple attackers. Whereas BJJ does not!
Honestly, regular Jujitsu is much more effective then BJJ!
P.S. BJJ is basically the ground game of Judo! And Judo was created from Jujitsu!|||There are many styles that are jujutsu but they vary a lot in terms of training philosophy. Competition is the best way to ensure quality instruction and to develop and test skills but one must acquire the skills first through demonstration and then repetition, thus the compliant stuff in all martial arts such as hitting targets or doing drills.|||BJJ is an extant of Jujitsu...Jujitsu was brought to South America in the early 1900%26#039;s, and was propagated by the Gracie family and others.
Brazilian Jujitsu has gained prominence in MMA, but long before the advent of the UFC it was a international combat art.|||well japanese jujitsu is very harsh to the body, also is stressful to the body and joints. Brazilian jujitsu was made for smaller fighters, also for competitions.|||Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu, BJJ or basically just Judo, is just a knock-off of Kodokan Judo invented by Dr. Jigoro Kano.
Japanese Jiu-jitsu has many, many styles and is very effective in a street fight.
Because most of the Japanese Jiu-Jitsu techniques are extremely dangerous, such as eye gouges or live sword techniques, they cannot be praticed in sparring (without maiming or killing your partner). So those very dangerous finger breaking, eye gouging, leg cranking, neck snapping, skin ripping, ear tearing, wrist breaking techniques are practiced in either %26#039;kata%26#039; or %26#039;waza%26#039;.
Like a boxer beating on a heavy bag or speed bag or shadow boxing, a lot of nasty Jiu-Jitsu techniques are practiced safely in kata or waza.
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is a ring fighting sport for trophies in front of screaming ticket buying fans$$$$$$$$$$. BJJ does not teach you how to defend against weapons, multiple attacks, or how to use weapons.|||There are stylistic and some significant technical differences between Jiujitsu and BJJ, but on the whole they are very similar in nature and concept.
Brazilian is a later version of Japanese Jiujitsu whcih gained in popularity because of some good promotional efforts and television exposure.
Which is the more effective. Easy, the one you like more and can employ more effectively. IF you learn either from a qualified and experienced instructor, you will acquire tools, knowledge, and efficiency that will help you in a defensive situation. That said, there are no guarantess in any system of defense.
Ken C
9th Dan HapMoosaKi-Do
8th Dan TaeKwon-Do
7th Dan YongChul-Do|||To my knowledge of the history of Jujitsu is, Jujitsu is what all the schools of empty hand samurai combat called their styles. There were many schools of Jujitsu at one point, because not all the feudal lords were in good standing with each other. Not all grouops of samurai got along, or even communicated. So, styles developed. As the Meiji restoration hit, Samurai were disbanded, one school of Jujitsu created Judo, which is huge in America and in Japan today. Another school had Brazilian students who created BJJ, and brought their styule back to Brazil. There are still other schools that went different directions. Aikijitsu, Aikido, etc...
Many will say that jujitsu can%26#039;t be used since its deadly groin kicks and snaps to the neck... but that is simple to eliminate for a UFC fight. Last time i heard... there have been no pure jujitsu champs at UFC.|||There is no difference. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is just Jiu Jitsu brought from Japan.
Now Gracie Jiu Jitsu, that is superior to all other Martial Arts, as proven time and time again.|||Jujitsu is actually SUPERIOR to Brazilian Jujitsu! Thats a fact!
Because BJJ teaches you techniques that are used for sport COMPETITION not a street fight! And the last thing you want to do is be rolling around on the ground looking for a submission like BJJ does during a street fight!
Regular Jujitsu teaches defense against weapons and defense against multiple attackers. Whereas BJJ does not!
Honestly, regular Jujitsu is much more effective then BJJ!
P.S. BJJ is basically the ground game of Judo! And Judo was created from Jujitsu!|||There are many styles that are jujutsu but they vary a lot in terms of training philosophy. Competition is the best way to ensure quality instruction and to develop and test skills but one must acquire the skills first through demonstration and then repetition, thus the compliant stuff in all martial arts such as hitting targets or doing drills.|||BJJ is an extant of Jujitsu...Jujitsu was brought to South America in the early 1900%26#039;s, and was propagated by the Gracie family and others.
Brazilian Jujitsu has gained prominence in MMA, but long before the advent of the UFC it was a international combat art.|||well japanese jujitsu is very harsh to the body, also is stressful to the body and joints. Brazilian jujitsu was made for smaller fighters, also for competitions.|||Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu, BJJ or basically just Judo, is just a knock-off of Kodokan Judo invented by Dr. Jigoro Kano.
Japanese Jiu-jitsu has many, many styles and is very effective in a street fight.
Because most of the Japanese Jiu-Jitsu techniques are extremely dangerous, such as eye gouges or live sword techniques, they cannot be praticed in sparring (without maiming or killing your partner). So those very dangerous finger breaking, eye gouging, leg cranking, neck snapping, skin ripping, ear tearing, wrist breaking techniques are practiced in either %26#039;kata%26#039; or %26#039;waza%26#039;.
Like a boxer beating on a heavy bag or speed bag or shadow boxing, a lot of nasty Jiu-Jitsu techniques are practiced safely in kata or waza.
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is a ring fighting sport for trophies in front of screaming ticket buying fans$$$$$$$$$$. BJJ does not teach you how to defend against weapons, multiple attacks, or how to use weapons.|||There are stylistic and some significant technical differences between Jiujitsu and BJJ, but on the whole they are very similar in nature and concept.
Brazilian is a later version of Japanese Jiujitsu whcih gained in popularity because of some good promotional efforts and television exposure.
Which is the more effective. Easy, the one you like more and can employ more effectively. IF you learn either from a qualified and experienced instructor, you will acquire tools, knowledge, and efficiency that will help you in a defensive situation. That said, there are no guarantess in any system of defense.
Ken C
9th Dan HapMoosaKi-Do
8th Dan TaeKwon-Do
7th Dan YongChul-Do|||To my knowledge of the history of Jujitsu is, Jujitsu is what all the schools of empty hand samurai combat called their styles. There were many schools of Jujitsu at one point, because not all the feudal lords were in good standing with each other. Not all grouops of samurai got along, or even communicated. So, styles developed. As the Meiji restoration hit, Samurai were disbanded, one school of Jujitsu created Judo, which is huge in America and in Japan today. Another school had Brazilian students who created BJJ, and brought their styule back to Brazil. There are still other schools that went different directions. Aikijitsu, Aikido, etc...
Jujitsu ???????????
My dad says he doesn%26#039;t want me @ home all the time so he thinks i should take up karate and i said i%26#039;d rather do jujitsu
does any one know where i can take this
i live in bristol fishponds
plz only answer if u really know and not just makin it up|||How about looking here:
http://www.jitsufoundation.org/jujitsu.a...|||i suggest you log on to the world ju jitsu federation website for local clubs go along and check them out. if in doubt try another club and talk to the sensei and students . question ,see if they are happy training,check the type of students,use common sense . only way to find out if you like it is to have a go . good luck|||Google is your friend|||well i would look in the phone book|||go to
http://maps.google.com/
and type in bristol jiu jitsu|||Just google Jiu-Jitsu or brazilian jiu-jitsu and then type your state and town name. Thats how I did it ;P|||www.jiujitsuclubs.com
does any one know where i can take this
i live in bristol fishponds
plz only answer if u really know and not just makin it up|||How about looking here:
http://www.jitsufoundation.org/jujitsu.a...|||i suggest you log on to the world ju jitsu federation website for local clubs go along and check them out. if in doubt try another club and talk to the sensei and students . question ,see if they are happy training,check the type of students,use common sense . only way to find out if you like it is to have a go . good luck|||Google is your friend|||well i would look in the phone book|||go to
http://maps.google.com/
and type in bristol jiu jitsu|||Just google Jiu-Jitsu or brazilian jiu-jitsu and then type your state and town name. Thats how I did it ;P|||www.jiujitsuclubs.com
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